Hi KL,
thank you for very interesting info and links. I browsed them, plus a number of additional links about Luftwaffe.
I did not find any direct bullet-proof evidence about paints used in Aslau. Here I would summarize info I found on all those pages, giving some hints about used paint:
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/luftcamdb_3.htmEvidence from all sources suggest (e.g. not confirm) names for paint numbers:
- 74 Graugr?n
- 75 Grauviolett
- 76 either Lichtblau or Weissblau
- 81 Braunviolett (Brown-Violet)
- 82 Hellgr?n (Bright Green)
- 83 Dunkelgr?n (Dark Green)
August 15, 194483 Dunkelgr?n (Dark Green) replaced 74 Graugr?n without any alterations to the camouflage pattern.
Could the 75/83 scheme actually be a long-lived transition scheme from 74/75 to the later 81/82 colours? 75/83 scheme first appears on the Bf 109 and FW-190 fighters.
September 1944
75/83 scheme specified for the FW-190 D-9.
First operational use of the Dora took place in early October 1944 with III./JG 54 whose aircraft were camouflaged in the 75/83 scheme?
However, a change occurred in the camouflage colors used in early 1945, from the standard 75/83 scheme to the 81/82 combination, and it is most probable that a variety of transition schemes existed (e.g., 81/83, 82/83, 75/81, etc.)
November 1944Released by Focke-Wulf and approved by the RLM, designating the
'green' 81/82/76 camouflage scheme to be applied to the Ta 152 (C or H?). The colors were designated as "81" and "82", however, no descriptions of the colors were provided.
Photographic evidence strongly suggests that although the 81/82 scheme was applied to the Ta 152 H series, the Ta 152 C-1 aircraft were finished in the
75/83 scheme as worn by the FW-190 D-9.
December 1944FW-190 D-9 "Black 12", WNr. 210079, which crashed from a low-level bird hit - The camouflage is a mottled on the fuselage, with the green predominating. The upper surfaces of the wings are a rather brighter green than is usual with German aircraft, whilst the undersides of the wings are light blue. The spinner is black with a white spiral.
good description for RLM 82 Hellgr?n. Regardless, by the end of the war, colour photos of late war Doras reveal them to have
moved into the green 81/82 schemeChronology of Camouflage Schemes and Colours for Focke-Wulf
Date ?Darker? Colour ?Lighter? Colour
??/09/44 Fw 190 D 83 (not given) 75 Grauviolett
??/10/44 Fw 190 A/F 83 (not given) 75 Grauviolett
??/12/44 Fw 190 D 82 Hellgr?n? (no other colour?)
??/01/45 Fw 190 D 81 (not given) 82 (not given)
Focke-Wulf 190 A-8
350 151 ? 350 300 Aslau 07.44-09.44 150 planes / 3 months, e.g. 50 planes /month,
350 851 ? 350 875 Aslau 10.44-10.44 25 planes / month,
Focke-Wulf 190 A-9 (D-9)
490 020 ? 490 050 Aslau 12.44-01.45 30 planes/2 months, e.g. 15 planes/month,
10 FW-190 A-8 and 14 D-9 Aslau Jan-45 24 planes / month
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23057174@N02/4256669125/in/set-72157610334641015Fw 190 A-8 W.Nr. 350 210 "Gelbe 15", I./JG ?, built at Aslau in 1944.
60th plane of the serie, e.g. produced sometime in July/August 1944 ? camo scheme 74/75/76.
compare to:
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/aircraft-markings-camouflage/fw-190-a6-1-jg-54-nowotny-32033.htmlD-FWJS (cn 990017) Flug Werk FW 190A-8/N by Andreas Zeitler - Flying-Wings
"Over its original gray camouflage, the fuselage and upper wing surfaces had been completely repainted in two new colours, a medium green, around the cockpit section and an olive green elsewhere, possibly the first experimental use of the colours 82 and 83. The tail section, however, was not recamouflaged??
SUMMARY:-
September 1944 - 75 Grauviolett /83 Dunkelgr?n (Dark Green) scheme for the Fw 190 D-9, replacing previous 74/75 scheme.
First operational use of the Dora took place in early October 1944 with III./JG 54 whose aircraft were camouflaged in the 75/83 scheme?
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early 1945 - change from the standard 75/83 scheme to the 81 Braunviolett (Brown-Violet) /82 Hellgr?n (Bright Green) combination,
- it is most probable that a variety of transition schemes existed (e.g., 81/83, 82/83, 75/81, etc.).
Repanting on the sides and front fuselage of Sukhov's P-39 is noticeable brighter than faded Olive Drab from different angles and times, so it is not only matter of the fresh semi-gloss paint reflection - possible candidates are 75 Grauviolett or 82 Hellgr?n 82 (Bright Green). 81 Braunviolett or 83 Dunkelgr?n (Dark Green) are too darks. They could be good candidate for the nose repainting.
76 either Lichtblau or Weissblau seems to be OK for underwings.
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