Troy Smith
|
|
« on: February 12, 2014, 08:59:07 PM » |
|
New to me, and not mentioned here, Micro Mir are doing Yakolev UT-1 kits, I spotted the 1/48th on ebay and did a bit of searching. The 1/48th kit come in 3 versions http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM48-002http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM48-003http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM48-004Can't find any reviews, but the kits looks quite comprehensive http://modelsua.com/Yakovlev-UT-1-1-48-1-48-Mikromir-48-002.html56 plastic parts, PE set, decal 6 variants The 1/144th kits has all 3 versions in the box it seems http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM-14402they do this in 1/72, which I've never heard of before! http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM-72002Moskalyev CAM-23 Soviet experimental aircraft Can't find a web page for them, the Hannants page lists some interesting other kits though for those with interest in Soviet ships http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?manufacturer_id=362447a couple of GPW 1/350th submarines and this which might be of interest for those who fancy something different http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MM35-009Hope of interest T
|
|
« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 09:03:42 PM by Troy Smith »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
learstang
|
|
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 11:10:25 PM » |
|
I'd love to see the UT-1B light attack aircraft in 1/72nd scale. That looney Moskalyov SAM-23 was actually built and flown!
Regards,
Jason
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'll sleep when I'm dead."
- Warren William Zevon
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2014, 06:49:17 AM » |
|
UT-1... absolutely nice. I hope they don't forget kits in 1/72 too. The one of Pavla is decent for a short run, but not exactly what one can dream. I think to have already written somewhere that a page of profiles of Tapani will be uploaded soon. Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TISO
|
|
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2014, 01:42:56 PM » |
|
UT-1... absolutely nice. I hope they don't forget kits in 1/72 too. The one of Pavla is decent for a short run, but not exactly what one can dream. I think to have already written somewhere that a page of profiles of Tapani will be uploaded soon. Regards Massimo
Acctually if you are not tamigawa modeller Pavla kit is IMHO quite good. A lot of sanding and thinning the trailing edges of main wing and cockpit needs detailing. If you are building shtrumovik version ShKAS guns are IMHO too small, plating under rocketrails need to be made, and U/C needs a lot of work (better use only forks for wheels, wheels and scratch buld the rest of it). Did one long ago but i gave it away and i only have a few pic's of building (none of finished model). Absolutly essential is HiPM article on UT-1b and its use (lot's of good and detailed pics of plane that was later white 10 in 46. AP VVS ChF).
|
|
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 06:29:49 PM by TISO »
|
Logged
|
Disciple of Error
|
|
|
Pascal
Jr. Member
Posts: 90
|
|
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2014, 03:44:02 PM » |
|
Hi, I have bought the first one. It's a nice kit, really ! The engine should be replaced by an M-11 from Vector, which is more realistic. A french modeller has built the UT-1b version, here : http://fighters.forumactif.com/t63147-yakovlev-ut-1b-1-48Regards, Pascal
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
66misos
|
|
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 05:48:46 PM » |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
learstang
|
|
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 06:00:35 PM » |
|
Nobody could ever accuse the Soviets of being unimaginative!
Regards,
Jason
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'll sleep when I'm dead."
- Warren William Zevon
|
|
|
KL
|
|
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 08:05:51 PM » |
|
That looney Moskalyov SAM-23 was actually built and flown!
SAM-23 was a glider designed by Moskalyov in 1944, prototype was completed in early 1945. It was successfully tested, but not produced in series: Moskalyov's work during the war years is described in his own memoirs, available at http://tancist2005.narod.ru/lib/moskalev/15.htmThere is absolutely no information about the "shturmovik LT" in Moskalyov's memoirs.... only information about the "shturmovik LT" was published in "Mir Aviatsiyi" 2002-1 magazine: According to the article by S. Kuznetsov, LT was a project by Zavod 499 engineer Nekrasov, submitted to TsAGI office in Novosibirsk in Sept 1942. Project was rejected. It is not clear if prototype (or mock-up) was constructed. There is a statement in one of the documents that mentions "taxiing tests on the ground"
|
|
« Last Edit: February 13, 2014, 08:11:00 PM by KL »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 10:56:26 PM » |
|
But what is that probe in contact to the ground? Is it to press mines? Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 11:00:26 PM » |
|
Acctually if you are not tamigawa modeller Pavla kit is IMHO quite good. A lot of sanding and thinning the trailing edges of main wing and cockpit needs detailing. If you are building shtrumovik version ShKAS guns are IMHO too small, plating under rocketrails need to be made, and U/C needs a lot of work (better use only forks for wheels, wheels and scratch buld the rest of it). Did one long ago but i gave it away and i only have a few pic's of building (none of finished model). Absolutly essential is HiPM article on UT-1b and its use (lot's of good and detailed pics of plane that was later white 10 in 46. AP VVS ChF). Photos of building... this is interesting. If you remember enough, could you write, or help to write, a page on this building? Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
learstang
|
|
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2014, 05:31:34 AM » |
|
But what is that probe in contact to the ground? Is it to press mines? Regards Massimo
I believe the idea was that it would enable the pilot to fly extremely close to the ground, like ground avoidance radar. It wasn't a very practical idea. Regards, Jason
|
|
|
Logged
|
"I'll sleep when I'm dead."
- Warren William Zevon
|
|
|
TISO
|
|
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2014, 02:37:09 PM » |
|
OK Massimo that is all thet is left of my Pavla kit (as i said i only have this pic's and kit was gifted to a friend). I'm now thinking of buying another one. BTW don't chew me up over colours as this was made in times when we were still listening EP. IRC colours used were Humbrol 151 (US interior green), Revell 9 (antracit) and Humbrol 65 (light blue) painted with brush (after last pic camo was touched up a bit and sprayed with matt lacquer). Aircraft that i made was aircraft S/N 47025 which served as prototype for UT-1B's and was later used as "white 10" from 46.AP VVS ChF from airfield Mozdok (sergant Prozor). This is basicly the only plane that one reproduce camo pattern accuratly as the plane was photographed from all angles in it's prototype days. BTW this unit also used one Polikarpov I-5 painted black as flak bait. Cockpit was thinned significantly and entry doors were cut out (and then made from scrach). Fuselage construction was made from streched sprue and electrical box (starboard side) and throtle quadrant was made (port side) Cockpit floor was made from sheet plastic with two wing spars, pedals and ShKAS reloading rods: Before gluing fuselage and wings together. As i said don't chew me up becouse of colours. here you can see metal plates added after RO rocket rails, some corrections on fuselage centerplane and scrach build U/C fairing leftovers - stubs (U/C legs were mounted on wing itself not fairing stubs). Wing need thinning at trailig edge. Thinning of parts is basicly the main work on this kit. For U/C i used only kit wheel forks & wheels and made rods from streched sprue Cockpit was with exception of seat built from scrach Small parts and ShKAS MG's are not yet mounted here you can only see raw stubs on which i mounted them. Kit ShKAS were IMHO too small so i then used AEROCLUB metal ones.
|
|
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 03:04:47 PM by TISO »
|
Logged
|
Disciple of Error
|
|
|
Massimo Tessitori
|
|
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 08:37:43 PM » |
|
Thank you Tiso, your notes and photos are useful, I think that it is possible to obtain a nice building report merging them to other images of the kit still to build it from other sources. By the way, the page on UT-1 and 2 is on line now. You can see it, in its first form, at http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/ut-1and2/UT-1-2.htm. Please let me know if you see defects. By the way, have you built the UT-2 of Amodel too? Regards Massimo
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TISO
|
|
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2014, 11:30:09 PM » |
|
By the way, have you built the UT-2 of Amodel too? Regards Massimo
Not yet but it is my stash and on my to do list. Add this to your links: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/aww2/ut1b.html
|
|
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 11:43:22 PM by TISO »
|
Logged
|
Disciple of Error
|
|
|
TISO
|
|
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2014, 11:43:29 PM » |
|
The Mikro-Mir big UT-1b landed in my stash (together with another Pavla i got on E(vil)Bay). I'm still waiting for the small 1/144 one.
My observations on the big one: - wings trailing edges will have to be thinned down significantly, - some flash (well it is a short run kit) - no metal RS blast plates under wings, - U/C again positioned on fairing stubs (like on PAVLA) - correction needed - would benefit from new resin engine (cylinders) and RS-82 rockets - nice 2 PE frets (one for genric UT-1 and one specific for UT-1b), - has wheels and skies
Markings for 3 versions: - unmarked VMAU im. Stalina Mozdok airfield spring 1942 - white 10 (No.47025) from 46. ShAP VVS ChF, pilot st. sergant Prozor V.V., Gaiduk airfield august 1942 (incidently this one is drawn with skies) - white 4 Mozdok airfield february 1942 pilot kapitan Shevchenko S.M. (IMHO No.47445 photographed in frebruary 1942 during tests with 24.ShAP VVS ChF) camo schemes should be taken with a bit of caution (especcially from top as IMHO 47025 doesn't correspond to photos)
BTW the HiPM article i reccomended is in their 4/95 issue. It has some good photos, good drawings, good camo scheme for No.47025 and operational history in 24 and 46. ShAP VVS ChF in czeh language.
|
|
« Last Edit: April 16, 2014, 12:05:02 AM by TISO »
|
Logged
|
Disciple of Error
|
|
|
|