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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 03:37:04 AM » |
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Thank you, John! I of course put in "ИЛ-2" and am now looking at the pictures.
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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 12:53:29 PM » |
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Hi John and Jason, the surprising thing is the high resolution of some photos, even thousands of pixels. It's a good source. Regards Massimo |
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 05:23:17 PM » |
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Great find. Jusct checking it out. Decal makers attention: Yak-9 of captain Mikhail Smyonovich Mazan-HSU deputy CO of 85.GIAP (440 combat flights, 91 air combats, 21 kills, KIA (gruz 200): +12.12.1944, HSU:15.05.1946)  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 06:02:11 PM » |
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It would be nice to see a sharkmouth Yak-9 instead of another b****y Flying Tigers P-40!
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Jason
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 06:55:10 PM » |
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Hi TISO, hi Jason,
this image (or another similar one) was on the book of EP too. Unfortunately there is no any indication for the bort number. But it looks that the plane on the background has the same sharkmouth, and one can read a sort of 76 on its sides.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 09:21:14 PM » |
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It would be nice to see a sharkmouth Yak-9 instead of another b****y Flying Tigers P-40!
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Jason
Here's a reasonably credible one, although not the one in the photo, of course: http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/15/1/0/90There were one or two others, but they had brown and green upper surface camouflage, and I didn't want anyone going into cardiac arrest...  John |
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 11:07:53 PM » |
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Hi,
I've seen the photos from which this profile was obtained, but it was a Yak-1b, not a Yak-9.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 12:27:41 AM » |
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Hi,
I've seen the photos from which this profile was obtained, but it was a Yak-1b, not a Yak-9.
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Thanks, Massimo - I thought the same thing, but I didn't check before I posted my reply. Yak-1b it is! John |
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 05:53:06 PM » |
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There you go John, another reason for someone to come out with a Yak-1B! And thank you for not posting any 'planes with that *#(*&@)! brown/green camouflage.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2011, 08:55:16 PM » |
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There you go John, another reason for someone to come out with a Yak-1B! And thank you for not posting any 'planes with that *#(*&@)! brown/green camouflage.
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Jason
One of them was actually quite interesting - a Yak-9 (according to the artist) but with a fuselage somewhat resembling the "humpbacked" profile of a Yak-7. But it does have a sharkmouth! In all fairness, the owner of Wings Palette titled it "Yak-9 (?)" and commented that the fuselage shape was "very strange". And to be fair to the artist too, it was originally published in one of those old Aircam books from the 1960's/1970's when most people in the West still had little or no awareness of what a Yak-9 (or any other Russian aircraft) looked like - e.g., the Italian book showing the imagined MiG-19 "Flying Barrel"! John |
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 09:28:29 PM » |
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"Wings Palete" owner is the troll (aka "technic") in that avalanche tread about Pilawskii at sacalemodels.ru forum!
In his opinion Vahlamov and Orlov wrote about boring camouflage tests and Pilawskii's "research" is a titanic effort to reveal true colours from b/w photos.
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 10:57:01 PM » |
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"Wings Palete" owner is the troll (aka "technic") in that avalanche tread about Pilawskii at sacalemodels.ru forum!
In his opinion Vahlamov and Orlov wrote about boring camouflage tests and Pilawskii's "research" is a titanic effort to reveal true colours from b/w photos.
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Interesting! I didn't know that - thanks! John |
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2011, 09:39:15 AM » |
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"Wings Palete" owner is the troll (aka "technic") in that avalanche tread about Pilawskii at sacalemodels.ru forum!
In his opinion Vahlamov and Orlov wrote about boring camouflage tests and Pilawskii's "research" is a titanic effort to reveal true colours from b/w photos.
KL
Interesting! I didn't know that - thanks! John I feel sorry for anyone who takes Wings Palette "okraski" (mostly stolen from very dubious sources) seriously. No wonder this "teknik" likes EP's work, they both have no clue about color research and military aviation basics. If only Orlov knew English!!! Cheers, Mario |
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