John Thompson
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« on: August 12, 2010, 12:59:51 AM » |
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http://photofile.ru/users/pakuro/3840677/Five pages! John (There's some amazing cockpit detail here - my arm has gone numb from right-clicking and saving! )
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« Last Edit: August 12, 2010, 03:18:44 AM by John Thompson »
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warhawk
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 10:39:05 AM » |
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my arm has gone numb from right-clicking and saving! ) Damn it! Mine too Thanks for the link
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 02:40:11 PM » |
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Very good. It would deserve to be employed for a large scale model. Thank you for sharing. Massimo
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learstang
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 05:54:09 PM » |
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Great pictures, but those colours! That AMT-12 is very greenish, and the AMT-11 looks too light. The exterior is obviously restored - any idea about the interior colours? Are they original?
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Learstang
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 07:32:07 PM » |
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For what I see, the back cushion is painted grey as the metal part of the backrest, and this let me think that the internal surfaces were repainted too. Massimo
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 02:22:30 AM » |
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my arm has gone numb from right-clicking and saving! ) Damn it! Mine too I suggest you install Down Them All!, a small program that grabs images in a webpage and saves them to a directory of your choice. It also works if the current page has thumbnails with links - as long as they link to actual pictures and not pages. Once it is installed, it becomes a right-click option when browsing. I downloaded the entire album in a dozen clicks... try it, you'll love it. HTH, Bone
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John Thompson
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 03:19:16 AM » |
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I suggest you install Down Them All!, a small program that grabs images in a webpage and saves them to a directory of your choice. It also works if the current page has thumbnails with links - as long as they link to actual pictures and not pages. Once it is installed, it becomes a right-click option when browsing. I downloaded the entire album in a dozen clicks... try it, you'll love it.
HTH, Bone
Thanks for the suggestion - sounds like a real time-saver! I'll check it out. John
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Troy Smith
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« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 09:18:51 PM » |
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Great pictures, but those colours! That AMT-12 is very greenish, and the AMT-11 looks too light. The exterior is obviously restored - any idea about the interior colours? Are they original?
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Learstang
This is the Yak 9 that was in the Yakolev design Bureau Musuem http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/yak/yak-9/index.htm Note sure where it is now, or if it's been repainted (looks like it) Somewhere i read that mr Pilawskii has been advising places on colours, as he wrote the book, and these look like Pilawskii versions of AMT 11 and 12.... well, it happened in Norway... and look at some of the Monino planes! Interior, if you look closely at the interior colours, there are chips in the paint showing a darker green, eg look above the throttle controls. (and same chips visible in walkround, ergo same plane) Don't know if primers or a repaint. There is also a walkround of a Yak 15, http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/yak/yak-15/index.htmby the same photographer, so presumably same day and camera showing a dark greeny grey, but also some bright yellow green panels as well. eg Look forward to thoughts on these colours. cheers T
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2010, 07:27:09 AM » |
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Hi Troy, I see that the colors of the Yak-9 are worn, as if it has been utilized after the last layer of paint. So, I suspect that it was original, and green/yellow were primers. I wonder if the plexiglas is yellowed, alterating the perception of color, or if it is a yellowed A-14. Regards Massimo
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Troy Smith
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2010, 02:19:56 PM » |
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Hi Troy, I see that the colors of the Yak-9 are worn, as if it has been utilized after the last layer of paint. So, I suspect that it was original, and green/yellow were primers. I wonder if the plexiglas is yellowed, alterating the perception of color, or if it is a yellowed A-14. Regards Massimo
Hi Massimo having a 'doh' moment, of course the other walkround has open cockpit pics galore. I'm not up enough on the interior colours, which is why I ask these questions. Is there a basic interior colour for type list anywhere? compared. The newer pics seem more worn, more paint chips. Does anyone know where this Yak 9 has been moved too? My cyrillic is very basic looks like 'museum technical' Krasnogorski raiion, Moscovskya oblast. cheers T
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KL
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2010, 08:44:41 PM » |
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This is the Yak 9 that was in the Yakolev design Bureau Musuem
Check following link: http://www.tmuseum.ru/Most of the former OKB Yakovlev museum planes are moved to Vadim Zadorozhni?s Technical Museum (google images for Музей техники Вадима Задорожного). Exception is the most precious/famous 1944 Yak-3 presented by kholkoznik Golovatiy to the HSU Yeryomin. This plane was landed (or sold?) in US in early 1990-ies, and is now in San Jacinto, California. Its ghost was seen in Krakow museum in 1992 . Both OKB Yakovlev Yak-3 and Yak-9 were re-painted in the same gray-gray green scheme sometimes around 1990. What we see there are definitely not AMT-11 and AMT-12. Interior is definitely not steel gray A-14. It was evidently re-painted several times. Only green-gray paint that could appear in WWII era cockpits would be ALG-5 primer. But, what we see in this Yak-9 cockpit is more likely post-war paint. Check walkarounds of post-war and modern Russian planes and you will find this same colour. KL
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2010, 03:37:10 AM » |
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Exception is the most precious/famous 1944 Yak-3 presented by kholkoznik Golovatiy to the HSU Yeryomin. This plane was landed (or sold?) in US in early 1990-ies, and is now in San Jacinto, California I read on scalemodels.ru that this plane had been sent to US on temporary loan. When the term expired the plane was just not returned to Russia. One (Russian) forumite plainly stated it was stolen. Mario
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KL
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2010, 08:11:50 AM » |
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I read on scalemodels.ru that this plane had been sent to US on temporary loan. When the term expired the plane was just not returned to Russia. One (Russian) forumite plainly stated it was stolen.
In the same tread another Russian forumite explained that situation is not that simple. Plane was part of the 1990 project to produce a series of Alison powered Yak-9U for western market. Eventually, Russian partner didn't fulfill parts of the contract and historic Yak-3 was kept as compensation. It was kept in Santa Monika museum till 2002 and then the museum went bankrupt. Supposedly, Americans would return it if Russians pay for the restoration that was done in meantime (probably another re-painting with "authentic" 21st century US paints). It?s important to stress that planes in internet workarounds are not painted with authentic colours. Restaurateurs who painted them in 1970/80/90 didn?t have a clue about AMT paints and ?Albom Nakrasok? paint chips. Cheers, KL
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