Sovietwarplanes

Thanks to (you guessed it) Scalemodels.ru:
http://waralbum.ru/?s=%D0%BF%D0%B5-2

Other aircraft can be found by inserting the Cyrillic text for the desired type in the search bar at the top of the page; for example, here's the result I got for Як-9 (Yak-9):
http://waralbum.ru/?s=%D0%AF%D0%BA-9

John

Thank you, John!  I of course put in "ИЛ-2" and am now looking at the pictures.

Regards,

Jason

Hi John and Jason,
the surprising thing is the high resolution of some photos, even thousands of pixels. It's a good source.
Regards
Massimo

Great find. Jusct checking it out.
 Decal makers attention:
Yak-9 of captain Mikhail Smyonovich Mazan-HSU deputy CO of 85.GIAP
(440 combat flights, 91 air combats, 21 kills, KIA (gruz 200): +12.12.1944, HSU:15.05.1946)
(http://waralbum.ru/wp-content/uploads/yapb_cache/yak9shark1.6f02btvui084884g8g400gckc.ejcuplo1l0oo0sk8c40s8osc4.th.jpeg)

It would be nice to see a sharkmouth Yak-9 instead of another b****y Flying Tigers P-40!

Regards,

Jason

Hi TISO, hi Jason,
this image (or another similar one) was on the book of EP  too. Unfortunately there is no any indication for the bort number. But it looks that the plane on the background has the same sharkmouth, and one can read a sort of 76 on its sides.
Regards
Massimo

Here's a reasonably credible one, although not the one in the photo, of course:

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/15/1/0/90

There were one or two others, but they had brown and green upper surface camouflage, and I didn't want anyone going into cardiac arrest...  ;)

John

Hi,
I've seen the photos from which this profile was obtained, but it was a Yak-1b, not a Yak-9.
Massimo

Thanks, Massimo - I thought the same thing, but I didn't check before I posted my reply. Yak-1b it is!

John

There you go John, another reason for someone to come out with a Yak-1B!  And thank you for not posting any 'planes with that *#(*&@)! brown/green camouflage.

Regards,

Jason

One of them was actually quite interesting - a Yak-9 (according to the artist) but with a fuselage somewhat resembling the "humpbacked" profile of a Yak-7. But it does have a sharkmouth! In all fairness, the owner of Wings Palette titled it "Yak-9 (?)" and commented that the fuselage shape was "very strange". And to be fair to the artist too, it was originally published in one of those old Aircam books from the 1960's/1970's when most people in the West still had little or no awareness of what a Yak-9 (or any other Russian aircraft) looked like - e.g., the Italian book showing the imagined MiG-19 "Flying Barrel"! ;)

John

"Wings Palete" owner is the troll (aka "technic") in that avalanche tread about Pilawskii at sacalemodels.ru forum!
In his opinion Vahlamov and Orlov wrote about boring camouflage tests and Pilawskii's "research" is a titanic effort to reveal true colours from b/w photos.

KL

Interesting! I didn't know that - thanks!

John

Hi,
I think that it's better to avoid to polemize with EP and his fans.
About Pe-2, have a look to this wreck, please.
http://trizna.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=31223 (http://trizna.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=31223)
It looks that the undersurfaces were grey.
Regards
Massimo

I feel sorry for anyone who takes Wings Palette "okraski" (mostly stolen from very dubious sources) seriously. No wonder this "teknik" likes EP's work, they both have no clue about color research and military aviation basics. If only Orlov knew English!!!
Cheers,
Mario

Please, let's avoid too many personal criticisms to other people. Discussion on coloring of planes of seventy years ago hasn't to be taken too emotionally.
Massimo

They say that eyes are the windows to the soul. Check the Mazan's Yak eyes and compare them to eyes found on P-40's (and other aircraft for that matter). Looks more like a wolf eyes and are way more serious.

AVG P-40 eyes seem to me to have a blank, expressionless look, but on the other hand, so do the eyes of a real shark! (Perhaps sharks have no souls...)

John

Agreed.  Let's at least keep the jabs above the belt and diplomatic.  There is an old saying where I am from - you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar.   ;)