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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 05:48:04 PM » |
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Because it has the forward-sliding enclosed canopy, it's an early type 5, but you probably already knew that.
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Jason
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 05:59:32 PM » |
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I am afraid you are right, Jason. I should have made it more clear: I am looking mainly for unit/markings info. But thanks anyway!
Regards, Christian
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 02:08:18 PM » |
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Hi Christian, the photo is very interesting for the markings depicted. Has any new information emerged? Regards Massimo
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2011, 02:15:13 PM » |
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Hi Massimo, not as yet, sorry!
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 07:22:04 PM » |
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Those kooky German soldiers and their souvenir-hunting! Well, at least their family survivors got to keep a genuine Soviet red star to remember their Fritz by. (Yes I know soldiers on all sides took souvenirs, but the arrogance and racism of the German soldiers towards the Soviets/Russians was striking, even by the low standards of the 1940's, a point that's being reinforced by a book I'm currently reading about the Battle for Moscow.)
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 08:16:56 PM » |
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Misha Timin says it was airfield Orsha-Balbasovo. И-16 скорее всего - матчасть 160 и 161 ИАП 43 ИАД (хотя возможно какие то неисправные машины могли остаться и от более ранних формирований), И-16 позднего типа 161 ИАП, И-153 из 160 ИАП.I-16s most likely belonged to 160th and 161st iap of 43rd iad (although it was possible that some unserviceable planes could have been left by earlier units). I-16 Type 29 (upright plane standing on its nose, tail No 7) belonged to 161st iap. I-153s belonged to 160th iap. HTH!!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 12:42:14 PM » |
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Hi all, I found some new piece of info on this particular marking here: http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_4735_start_1120.html (scroll down) The similarities between "3-1" and "5-1" are obvious - so could "3-1" have been a plane of 22 IAP? Where was this regiment stationed in 1941? The speculation about the white fuselage band indicating rocket-carrying aircraft is also interesting... Regards, Christian
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 01:08:42 PM » |
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Hi Christian, there are photos of both planes at http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/i16/i16painting/I16painting.htmThe text is: 5-1 looks a type 17; this was the plane of 2nd leutnant Katalov of 22th IAP crashed during the fights against Japaneses in Nomonhan, Manchuria, in 1939.
The planes were delivered to the unit in a light grey livery, but this resembled the colors of Japanese Ki-27, leading to dangerous misunderstandings. So the uppersurfaces were repainted green, leaving only a light grey band around the fuselage.
The characteristic n.51 (or 5-1?) shows two different sizes for the digits; these digits are aligned on their top (differently from what we see in some profiles); their different size could be determined by the space available. It's unknown how the numbers appeared on the other side. Regards Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 01:19:49 PM » |
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Oops, thanks for the hint, Massimo. But anyway, is the presence of a 22nd IAP plane at Orscha in 1941 a valid possibility?
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