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Pre-GPW Aviation => Monoplane fighters of '20s and '30s => Topic started by: Massimo Tessitori on September 11, 2011, 08:41:03 AM



Title: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 11, 2011, 08:41:03 AM
Hi, I've updated the I-16 page by a page on the evolution of its painting. It is still in progress.
Please, let me know any suggestion and help me to improve the captions.
I've started to add external links on the I-16 page too. Please, if you have links on I-16, this is the good time to suggest them.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: warhawk on September 11, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
How about this one?   ;)
http://i16fighter.narod.ru/

Also, I have some doubts over this particular aircraft being AII green, since B/W photos show a very dark shade (almost black)...
http://www.savagesquadron.com/SUpage/SUFighters/i16.jpg

or this one, waaay too dark
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/i16/i16painting/i-16color.jpg)

But, I have no suggestion over the correct color designation...


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: KL on September 11, 2011, 07:10:43 PM
Also, I have some doubts over this particular aircraft being AII green, since B/W photos show a very dark shade (almost black)...
or this one, waaay too dark

(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/i16/i16painting/i-16color.jpg)

But, I have no suggestion over the correct color designation...

the sky is too dark too, and German jeep should be GRAY!  So, use your PhotoShop and adjust colours... :)
KL


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: KL on September 11, 2011, 07:45:15 PM
Massimo,
"Type 6" was a code for a small series of I-5 two-seaters made at Zavod 21.

"I-16 Type 6" never existed - it's an urban legend / myth.

KL


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 11, 2011, 10:02:06 PM
Hi Warhawk and Konstantin
about the photo, it's impossible to do better without repainting it. The shades shown are, with some small regulations, those of the original photo. It's already good that red can be distinguished from green.
The link to Narod is very good, thank you, I've included it into the page.

What are the sources from which you took the information that I-16 type 6 never existed?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: John Thompson on September 12, 2011, 03:25:25 AM
I've started to add external links on the I-16 page too. Please, if you have links on I-16, this is the good time to suggest them.
Regards
Massimo

Early I-16 variants:
Part 1  http://web.archive.org/web/20080112091951/www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/polikarpov_i-16/polikarpov_i-16_1.htm
Part 2  http://web.archive.org/web/20080110053211/http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/polikarpov_i-16/polikarpov_i-16_2.htm
Part 3  http://web.archive.org/web/20080110054125/http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/polikarpov_i-16/polikarpov_i-16_3.htm
Part 4  http://web.archive.org/web/20080110054133/http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/polikarpov_i-16/polikarpov_i-16_4.htm

Note that this is an archived article; unfortunately the image thumbnail links don't work after Part 1; also images themselves are "red Xed" in the later parts.

John


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: learstang on September 12, 2011, 05:15:25 AM
Thank you for the links, John!  I'd forgotten about the Bushfire Wars site; that was a very interesting site.  It's a shame it's not really around anymore.  I also read about the PZL P.24 in Greek service on this site.  I just need some evidence that it fought on the Eastern front (Romania, perhaps?) in order to force myself to purchase the new Azur kit.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 12, 2011, 06:38:46 AM
Hi John,
thank you for the links, but unfortunately it seems that they don't function well. I'll retry...
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 12, 2011, 06:48:09 AM
Hi Konstantin,
Quote
"I-16 Type 6" never existed - it's an urban legend / myth.
on 'Polikarpov I-16 fighter' of Gordon and Dexter there is written that I-16 tip 6 is the designation of an interim batch of 30 planes with an additional synchronized ShKAS under the fuselage sent to Spain.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: KL on September 12, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
Quote
"I-16 Type 6" never existed - it's an urban legend / myth.
on 'Polikarpov I-16 fighter' of Gordon and Dexter there is written that I-16 tip 6 is the designation of an interim batch of 30 planes with an additional synchronized ShKAS under the fuselage sent to Spain.

That definition of "Type 6" originates from Armada I-16 book by M. Maslov.
Maslov corrected this in his last I-16 book published by Yauza Eksmo in 2008.

For listing of Zavod 21 "types" check http://www.ilisso.ru/timsz/avia/gaz21.htm

What are the sources from which you took the information that I-16 type 6 never existed?

Production logs and diaries...  ;D


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: stevehed on September 12, 2011, 09:30:00 PM
Thank you for the links, John!  I'd forgotten about the Bushfire Wars site; that was a very interesting site.  It's a shame it's not really around anymore.  I also read about the PZL P.24 in Greek service on this site.  I just need some evidence that it fought on the Eastern front (Romania, perhaps?) in order to force myself to purchase the new Azur kit.

Regards,

Jason

Hi Jason,
             Bushfire had a pretty good write up of the air war in Greece but it's supposed to going to be upgraded. This link has a pretty good history section. Hope it helps.

Cheers, Steve

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/p24lk_1.htm


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: learstang on September 13, 2011, 01:04:40 AM
Thank you for the link, Steve!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 19, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
Hi,
I've updated again the page at http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/i16/i16painting/I16painting.htm (http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/i16/i16painting/I16painting.htm)
Please, have a look and let me know if there is something to modify.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 11, 2011, 09:05:19 PM
Hi,
I've made some addictions to this page. If anyone has suggestions of any kind, they are welcome.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: xan on June 05, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
I fond here a pic of an I-16 IO never seen, just to share:
http://reibert.info/useralbums/481/view (http://reibert.info/useralbums/481/view)

(http://reibert.info/useralbums/img_28839_5530-jpg.16719/standalone?embedded=1)

it's a pity the inscription is unreadable...

Xan


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on June 05, 2014, 02:08:17 PM
Hi Xan,
nice plane, unfortunately it's not an original I-16 but a replica for a movie.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: xan on June 05, 2014, 02:31:42 PM
waoh! it's real that the noze is very special , as the windscreen is .
Another time, I will look twice before I post a pic!!!
regards
Xan


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: TISO on August 25, 2014, 04:03:08 AM
Interestingly mottle camo on this I-16:
http://aviaforum.ru/showthread.php?t=11112&page=63 (http://aviaforum.ru/showthread.php?t=11112&page=63)
(http://aviaforum.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=413186&d=1385540661)


Title: Re: I-16 page
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on August 25, 2014, 08:02:21 AM
Good image, thank you.
Massimo