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Great Patriotic War Aviation => Painting standards during the GPW => Topic started by: learstang on September 13, 2011, 07:09:07 AM



Title: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: learstang on September 13, 2011, 07:09:07 AM
After much deliberation I'm beginning to think that Testors Model Master Neutral Gray is a better match for A-14 Steel Grey than Light Ghost Gray as it is darker, which seems to better match not only the AKAN A-14, but the fragments of the DB-3/IL-4 preserved in the Museum in Kiev.  It's basically the same hue (colour) as Light Ghost Gray, but darker in tone.  If someone has a better colour match, I'd love to hear it.  Please realise that I am reluctant to rely upon AKAN partially because I feel their paints are too dark for 1/72nd scale products, and I hate mixing paints, but I also wish to have a more readily available paint line, and Testors fits that.  At any rate, I would be interested to hear any comments or suggestions regarding this colour (A-14).

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: learstang on September 15, 2011, 04:12:18 AM
Don't everybody answer at once!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: JP on September 15, 2011, 07:08:41 AM
Ok, we won't!  :P

Been buried at work these last few weeks.  Sorry, no input from me at this time.  :(


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 15, 2011, 02:20:37 PM
Hi,
the Humbrol 27 isn't too bad, but something lighter could be closer to the AKAN paint. Eventually one could use 27 as a base, and make some drybrushing with lighter shades on details.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: learstang on September 15, 2011, 05:37:29 PM
Ok, we won't!  :P

Been buried at work these last few weeks.  Sorry, no input from me at this time.  :(

Sorry to be a little snippy, but I was feeling ignored! :'(  Massimo, thank you for the suggestion.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: marluc on September 15, 2011, 09:47:10 PM
Don't everybody answer at once!
Sorry,I don?t have Testors paints,Humbrol 27 is close enough to A-14 and is available in my country.Greetings.

Martin


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: John Thompson on September 16, 2011, 04:41:41 PM
After much deliberation I'm beginning to think that Testors Model Master Neutral Gray is a better match for A-14 Steel Grey than Light Ghost Gray as it is darker, which seems to better match not only the AKAN A-14, but the fragments of the DB-3/IL-4 preserved in the Museum in Kiev.  It's basically the same hue (colour) as Light Ghost Gray, but darker in tone.  If someone has a better colour match, I'd love to hear it.  Please realise that I am reluctant to rely upon AKAN partially because I feel their paints are too dark for 1/72nd scale products, and I hate mixing paints, but I also wish to have a more readily available paint line, and Testors fits that.  At any rate, I would be interested to hear any comments or suggestions regarding this colour (A-14).

Regards,

Jason

Light Ghost Gray did look a bit too light to my eye, although that didn't stop me from using it. MM Neutral Gray (#1725) is closer to the Akan colour, a bit lighter, perhaps. Although the following article is about AE-9, it may be of interest (maybe I should have posted it in the "Colours, Schemes, and Research" sub-forum); he claims AE-9 was much darker than we thought:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fakan.ru%2Findex.php%2Fsatii%2F34-rackpyltaynuae9&act=url

John


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: learstang on September 16, 2011, 05:36:01 PM
After much deliberation I'm beginning to think that Testors Model Master Neutral Gray is a better match for A-14 Steel Grey than Light Ghost Gray as it is darker, which seems to better match not only the AKAN A-14, but the fragments of the DB-3/IL-4 preserved in the Museum in Kiev.  It's basically the same hue (colour) as Light Ghost Gray, but darker in tone.  If someone has a better colour match, I'd love to hear it.  Please realise that I am reluctant to rely upon AKAN partially because I feel their paints are too dark for 1/72nd scale products, and I hate mixing paints, but I also wish to have a more readily available paint line, and Testors fits that.  At any rate, I would be interested to hear any comments or suggestions regarding this colour (A-14).

Regards,

Jason

Light Ghost Gray did look a bit too light to my eye, although that didn't stop me from using it. MM Neutral Gray (#1725) is closer to the Akan colour, a bit lighter, perhaps. Although the following article is about AE-9, it may be of interest (maybe I should have posted it in the "Colours, Schemes, and Research" sub-forum); he claims AE-9 was much darker than we thought:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fakan.ru%2Findex.php%2Fsatii%2F34-rackpyltaynuae9&act=url

John

I still think Light Ghost Gray is a pretty close match (let's just say I'm not going to redo all the models I used it on), but I think Neutral Gray is closer, at least to the preserved fragments I've seen.  As far as it being lighter than AKAN, I think that's a good thing, as I believe AKAN's colours are too dark as is for scale models.  Now if I were restoring a full-sized aeroplane they might be perfect.  And thanks for the link, John; I'll check it out.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: A-14 - Best Modelling Paint Analogues For
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 16, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
Hi

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Although the following article is about AE-9, it may be of interest (maybe I should have posted it in the "Colours, Schemes, and Research" sub-forum); he claims AE-9 was much darker than we thought:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fakan.ru%2Findex.php%2Fsatii%2F34-rackpyltaynuae9&act=url

In this case, I don't agree with the deductions of Akanihin. He has taken a grey-green found inside a TB-3 and of a Yak-9 and has stated that it was AE-9.
Regards
Massimo