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Title: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: herbarnold99 on December 17, 2011, 04:25:18 AM Hi, I'm looking for photos/drawings of the I-7/Heinkel HD-37, hopefully in operational markings. Realize there may not be much out there, and have vacuumed up what I could from Google images. Any leads appreciated!
Cheers, Herb Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: John Thompson on December 17, 2011, 05:05:14 AM This any help?
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww1/i7.html http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/i7hd37kr.html http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/heinkeli7av.html http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/i7.html John Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: herbarnold99 on December 21, 2011, 03:14:59 AM Thanks John! There were a couple new ones in there, I appreciate it! I just don't think I'm ever going to find much, this subject is the definition of obscurity...
Cheers, Herb Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: learstang on December 21, 2011, 03:42:10 AM I have to admit that's one I hadn't seen before. Still, it does just scream "Heinkel", doesn't it? Herb, is there a model for this (I love obscure subjects also, especially Soviet ones)?
Regards, Jason Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: John Thompson on December 21, 2011, 04:47:09 PM I have to admit that's one I hadn't seen before. Still, it does just scream "Heinkel", doesn't it? Herb, is there a model for this (I love obscure subjects also, especially Soviet ones)? Regards, Jason Well. you're in luck (although, as they say, "There are two kinds of luck") - there was a Prop&Jet vacuform, a few years ago; some hard searching might turn one up somewhere depending on how badly you want it: http://www.rumodelism.com/wiki/doku.php/review/obz034 John Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: learstang on December 21, 2011, 05:45:24 PM I have to admit that's one I hadn't seen before. Still, it does just scream "Heinkel", doesn't it? Herb, is there a model for this (I love obscure subjects also, especially Soviet ones)? Regards, Jason Well. you're in luck (although, as they say, "There are two kinds of luck") - there was a Prop&Jet vacuform, a few years ago; some hard searching might turn one up somewhere depending on how badly you want it: http://www.rumodelism.com/wiki/doku.php/review/obz034 John Thank you John! I'll have to put that one my "maybe one day" list; quite a very long list. Maybe Musa has one rattling around somewhere, although to be honest I'd rather get his I-14 (maybe if I get a little money for Christmas!). Regards, Jason Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: KL on December 21, 2011, 06:12:30 PM Page based on 1994 Krila Rodiny text by I. Sultanov at http://alternathistory.org.ua/istrebitel-i-7-neozhidannyi-prishelets
Poor photos, drawings should be reliable (Sultanov illustrated Shavrov?s books) (http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/users/user1884/i-7-01-640x400.JPG) (http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/users/user1884/i-7-02-640x1285.JPG) (http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/users/user1884/i-7-03-640x426.JPG) (http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/users/user1884/i7-1-640x418.gif) (http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/resize/users/user1884/i-7-04-640x420.JPG) Text by M. Maslov in 1999 Aviatsiya magazine at http://lib.rus.ec/b/201168/read (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_1.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_2.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_3.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_4.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_5.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_6.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_7.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_8.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_9.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_10.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_11.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_13.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_14.jpg) (http://lib.rus.ec/i/68/201168/pic_15.jpg) (http://www.opoccuu.com/i-7.ht3.jpg) Not bad for an ?obscure? fighter? KL Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: learstang on December 21, 2011, 06:26:53 PM Nice reference material, Konstantin - thank you! It does look a bit like an Arado 65, but I suppose it's the BMW engine (it looks like a BMW).
Regards, Jason Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: KL on December 21, 2011, 07:28:18 PM Better photo at http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft22072.htm
(http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AK/AK2009-11/13-2.jpg) (http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AM/AM05-7/15-2.jpg) Couple of I-7 photos at http://www.aeropedia.be/web/content.php?article.1002778 but harder to vacume... Google image search results: (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft%20Silhouette/HD_37c_01.jpg) (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft%20Silhouette/Silhouettequiz27.jpg) Japanese HD-37 at http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/mig_exp/german-gazou.html (http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/mig_exp/heinkel-hd-37-1.jpg) (http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/mig_exp/heinkel-hd-37-2.jpg) Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: KL on December 22, 2011, 06:42:17 PM 1929 Heinkel HD-43. It was a design similar to HD-37, but incorporated modifications requested by the Soviets. Eventually it was rejected. Some of the modifications (like headrest) were included in I-7.
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/klesnikov/Posted%20in%20forums/ussr_heinkel-hd37_1928.jpg) (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm13/klesnikov/Posted%20in%20forums/hd43-1.jpg) 131 I-7s produced are not a small number for early 1930es. For comparison, only 151 P-26s were made. For Soviet aviation industry I-7 was an important step forward: already in 1928 Polikarpov used Heinkel's calculation methods in U-2 (later Po-2) wing design. Some may also recognize Heinkel's influence on later I-5... I-7 was the first Soviet plane with welded steel frame fuselage - similar design will be used in later Yakovlev designs... Cheers, KL Title: Re: I-7 (HD-37) images? Post by: herbarnold99 on December 23, 2011, 01:23:56 AM Well, glad the topic generated some interest! I do have the Prop & Jet vacform, and it is very nice. Some of the most delicate surface detail I've come across, especially for a vac. Thanks to everyone for providing all the images!
Cheers, Herb |