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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Colors, schemes, & research => Topic started by: xan on April 25, 2012, 06:25:07 PM



Title: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: xan on April 25, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
Hi,
here the result of the work we did between Apex Pascal and I who are all menbers of this forum...
http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54267&start=200  (http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54267&start=200)
Akan paints are difficult to acces, so we try to find correspondant in other brands.
This work is not perfect and not ended but we hope it can help...

(http://nsm05.casimages.com/img/2012/04/26//1204260941111476839771651.png) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=1204260941111476839771651.png)

Xan



Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: learstang on April 25, 2012, 08:13:18 PM
Thank you very much, Xan!  We appreciate the work you gentlemen have done on your site regarding the VVS.  I will download this chart and take a look at it.  Merci!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: Pascal on April 25, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
And if you could add some data, it could be useful to us... and everybody Thanks!

Pascal


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: learstang on April 25, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
And if you could add some data, it could be useful to us... and everybody Thanks!

Pascal

One thing I'll do Pascal is add my Testors Model Master matches (or what I think are matches).  I know Massimo's already done a lot of this so I'm sure he'll be interested to take a look.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 26, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
Hi Xan,
this work is very interesting. Was it done on the base of Akan chips?
There is a point that let me in doubt: in two different tables, there are written two different himbrol matches for the AMT-4: 226 and 158. Wha's the reason?
About the AII blue: I think that it can be obtained with 65 plus some 89. Unfortunately Humbrols are very difficult to mix perfectly: the resulting shade, even on a single can, is very influenced on how the paint is mixed.  For this, Humbrol paints are well different from Tamiya and Gunze that I've sometimes experienced and had more stable shades.
For what I've seen with my paints, AII green looks similar in hue to 150, but the Akan paint that I have seen is darker, as dark as 34079 even if more green. 150 will certainly be good for A-19f for metal planes.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: John Thompson on April 26, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
Nice work, guys! This is something we've needed for a long time, despite many attempts to create such a comparison.

Unfortunately Humbrols are very difficult to mix perfectly: the resulting shade, even on a single can, is very influenced on how the paint is mixed.  For this, Humbrol paints are well different from Tamiya and Gunze that I've sometimes experienced and had more stable shades.

Very true! It seems that recent Humbrol paint (especially the matt colours) is of very poor quality. Because it's so widely available, I've tried several times to select equivalents to the most important Akan colours, but I've never been happy with the results.

John


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: xan on April 26, 2012, 09:31:16 PM
Hi Xan,
this work is very interesting. Was it done on the base of Akan chips?
There is a point that let me in doubt: in two different tables, there are written two different himbrol matches for the AMT-4: 226 and 158. Wha's the reason?

sorry it's a mistake hu158 is no long available
Xan


Title: Re: VVS colors in Tamiya Gunze humbrol and akan
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 27, 2012, 07:01:03 AM
Hi Xan,
yes, I've read this on the other forum. Humbrol has removed from its inventory also the  'Russian blue' (115, if I remember well) that could have been fairly good for A-18f, and that resembled to the color of the wreck of MiG-3 preserved in Veesiveehma depot.
Regards
Massimo