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Great Patriotic War Aviation => Lavochkins => Topic started by: FPSOlkor on October 20, 2006, 10:09:17 AM



Title: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on October 20, 2006, 10:09:17 AM
I do think You'll like it.

(http://vif2ne.ru/nvi/forum/files/Olkor/IMAGE0008.JPG)

And one more for pleasure viewing:

(http://vif2ne.ru/nvi/forum/files/Olkor/IMAGE0023.JPG)

Copyright is mine in all cases.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Audrius on October 20, 2006, 10:41:04 PM
hello!
very nice pictures indeed!! Thanks for shearing with us.
Can you identify the regiment and pilot with La5 from VCh esquadrille? If you would know the number of the La-5 perhaps Massimo could include it's profile in the corresponding article on the site dedicated to this esquadrille.

BR Audrius


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 20, 2006, 11:16:04 PM
Hi, :)
Audrius has already written what I was thinking.
If you want, Oleg, I will make some restoration work on this good photo for any future use.
Massimo


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on October 20, 2006, 11:35:26 PM
Hi, :)
Audrius has already written what I was thinking.
If you want, Oleg, I will make some restoration work on this good photo for any future use.
Massimo

I'd be pleased. 180 -th GvIAP, pilot Soshenko, regiment commander. Got this photo from Valyaev - former pilot of this squad. I do not know of the original TN for this aircraft.

BTW, You promised to colorize the photo for Tikhomirov....


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Audrius on October 20, 2006, 11:53:31 PM
I'd be pleased. 180 -th GvIAP, pilot Soshenko, regiment commander. Got this photo from Valyaev - former pilot of this squad. I do not know of the original TN for this aircraft.

Could you give us a full name of Sochenko, please?
And you have ability please ask more about "VCh" esq. to the Valyaev, would it be possible? Could you contact him?

Massimo
this is first evidence that 180GIAP had La-5 of VCh esq.!!!!  :o Defineatlly we need a profile and a contribution to the site.
BR
Audrius


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on October 21, 2006, 12:47:24 AM
I'd be pleased. 180 -th GvIAP, pilot Soshenko, regiment commander. Got this photo from Valyaev - former pilot of this squad. I do not know of the original TN for this aircraft.

Could you give us a full name of Sochenko, please?
And you have ability please ask more about "VCh" esq. to the Valyaev, would it be possible? Could you contact him?

Massimo
this is first evidence that 180GIAP had La-5 of VCh esq.!!!!? :o Defineatlly we need a profile and a contribution to the site.
BR
Audrius

Are you the same Audrius from VIF?

Well, I'm not sure if this is exactly Soshenko, since Valyaev has only 13% percent of his sight left. I havent also decyphered the sound in to text, but he was pretty sure that they had VCh planes - 2-3 of them? still, no TNs remembered. Soshenko was killed, so you may try to ask Hippo. Next vizit is planned in 2 weeks time.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Audrius on October 21, 2006, 09:53:28 AM

Are you the same Audrius from VIF?

Yep you are right, it's me! :) I'm on both both boards under my name.

Thanks for advice, should ask Hippo.

BR Audrius


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 21, 2006, 02:53:37 PM
Hi, :)
all this is very interesting. I hope that names and numbers will come out.
Oleg, I'm starting to colorize the image. A promise is a promise.
Massimo


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on October 21, 2006, 05:38:49 PM
Hi, :)
all this is very interesting. I hope that names and numbers will come out.
Oleg, I'm starting to colorize the image. A promise is a promise.
Massimo
Thanx

But I do not work with documents - people only, and Valyaev is the only survivour of the regiment known to me. So... I'm afraid i will not be able to help with this one. So, the only thing You can do is colorize existing image....

Massimo, Please do repost the images and let me know about it, since they will be deleted soon from the place where I stored them.



Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: yogy on October 26, 2006, 02:04:28 PM
[...]
Copyright is mine in all cases.

The Fw190F-pipcture is also to be seen in "Jagdwaffe 44-45 in the East"  by Mr. Bergstrom. I hope you made arrangements with him for for (C), reprinting etc.  ::).


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on October 26, 2006, 07:15:37 PM
[...]
Copyright is mine in all cases.

The Fw190F-pipcture is also to be seen in "Jagdwaffe 44-45 in the East"? by Mr. Bergstrom. I hope you made arrangements with him for for (C), reprinting etc.? ::).

If he has a negative - i'll let the copyright to him (btw, i havent seen this book at all, please, rescan it if possible to confirm it's  the same photo), otherwise, I got it from family album of the pilot, who has MORE rights for this photo, since he is pictured there. I'm not reprinting anything, apart from photo albums, and Ovsyannikov, pilot from 28-th GvIAP did tell me that some people from abroad aproached him for photos and intervies, and he DENIED them the possibility to have them.  This is another picture from the same site from the same pilot:

(http://vif2ne.ru/nvi/forum/files/Olkor/IMAGE0016.JPG)

I will not tolerate accusations for stealing, and if i will not hear excuses i'll end the cooperation with those abroad here and now.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: yogy on November 02, 2006, 09:51:33 AM
Tolkor, you are right. Your pic has better quality then the one in the mentioned book, but definitely it is at least the same scenery on the pics.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on November 02, 2006, 10:06:18 AM
Tolkor, you are right. Your pic has better quality then the one in the mentioned book, but definitely it is at least the same scenery on the pics.
Accepted. The scenery is possibly the same, but lets not forget that in 1945 most of the former german airbases looked quite alike... That is, old damaged german aircraft were simply pushed aside by bulldozers.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: yogy on November 02, 2006, 09:46:54 PM
Tolkor, now I checked in detail:

The pic in the book and yours are exactly the same, even the 3 cigarettes are in the same "position" ;). But yours shows a better quality (higher resolution, better light), so I think you must have an original ;).


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on November 02, 2006, 11:48:16 PM
Tolkor, now I checked in detail:

The pic in the book and yours are exactly the same, even the 3 cigarettes are in the same "position" ;). But yours shows a better quality (higher resolution, better light), so I think you must have an original ;).

Hmmm. It is possible, that Petrov has another image, and B. got it from him, although i'm not sure. Not sure as well that this image is of good quality (i'm afraid to imagine what is bad quality! :) ) What i would like to know, is how it is sighned? Oh yes - there are 4 cigarettes on the picture.


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 04, 2006, 03:34:57 PM
Hi Oleg,? :)
I've uploaded smaller versions of your photos at
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/images/budnir.jpg)
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/images/IMAGE0016r.jpg)
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/images/IMAGE0023r.jpg)
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/images/IMAGE0088-1r.jpg)
so, if you want, yo can convert the links of your post to these.
Massimo


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on November 04, 2006, 05:14:05 PM
I see that You also corrected the images? ;) Thank You! How is colorizing goes?


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 04, 2006, 09:06:42 PM
Hi,  :)
I am at this point now. I need instructions on the painting of medals and shoulder straps.
Massimo
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/images/18c.jpg)


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on November 04, 2006, 10:28:24 PM
Ok, I'll ask



Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: FPSOlkor on November 12, 2006, 11:57:29 PM
I asked:
1/ The shoulder straps were gold with blue lines http://armor.kiev.ua/army/forma/rkka_43-55-o.shtml 1-st picture 4-th from left

2/ there are 5 red banners http://mondvor.narod.ru/ORBan.html, and T. has a defence of Leningrad medal http://mondvor.narod.ru/MObLeng.html
3/ The trousers were of dark sand color
4/ the boots were made from outside from fox fur with it,s specific @Red@ color.
5\ The "Crab" is also golden


Title: Re: La-funf
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 13, 2006, 01:07:44 PM
Very good Oleg. :)
I'll resume the work on this image.
Massimo