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Great Patriotic War Aviation => Sukhois => Topic started by: Libor Jekl on January 16, 2007, 02:40:55 PM



Title: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 16, 2007, 02:40:55 PM
Hi all,

After some years of decision making whether to build this kit or not, I eventually started... Enclosed is the sprue layout and the aftermarkets from PH Model, Eduard and Part. I will also use the AML decals.
My target is to build the kit within few weeks, as I take part at a local web group build called "Russian winter". I am going to model Su-2 variant with M-88B engine as flown at 210. BBAP in winter 1941/1942.

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59578)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59579)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59580)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59581)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59582)


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 16, 2007, 02:48:27 PM
... and here is some progress. Missing rounded windows behind the wing root has been drilled out and the openings filled with a disc of clear plastic, which was subsequently sanded smooth and polished with Tamiya Rubbing Compound. I also thinned the fuselage cockpit walls, as these were much on the thick side...
Assembling the bomb bay and cockpits using both Eduard and Part etched...

Bye for now,
Libor

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59584)
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Title: Re: Sukhoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Dark Green Man on January 16, 2007, 10:10:54 PM


WOW!
Libor, that looks awesome so far.
the final item should look fantastic
(the only real failing I can see in the ICM Su-2 is the lack of 'portholes' in the lower rear fuselage, just as you describe)



Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 17, 2007, 12:17:50 PM
Thanks! ;)
Speaking of downsides, I think the worst issue is number of sinkmarks, which may vary case by case. My example is fortunately affected minimally, but I saw kits with huge sinkmarks all along the wing's trailing edge. :o

Some small progress once again... Painting the interior and making new wheel bays (actually, the other downside) from Evergreen stock. The small revision holes inside the bays are still to be cut out.

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=59586)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=60763)
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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: John Thompson on January 17, 2007, 08:29:42 PM


WOW!
Libor, that looks awesome so far.
the final item should look fantastic
(the only real failing I can see in the ICM Su-2 is the lack of 'portholes' in the lower rear fuselage, just as you describe)



Libor is an awesome builder, no question. I thought I should mention, before you offer him a copy of that Su-2 book, that it was Libor who gave it to me in the first place!  ;)

(Some people call what I just did "coattailling" - trying to share the glory of someone *better* by "riding on his coattails" - sorry, Libor!  ;D)

John Thompson


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 18, 2007, 12:34:23 AM
Hi Libor, :)
truly a beautiful work. Thanks for sharing.
I've two Su-2s  with resin cowling too, and your description will be useful to me too.
About the photoetched sets: it looks that they are nealy complementary, only few details of the cockpit are duplicated between the sets, isn't it? So one has to buy them both...
Massimo


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Dark Green Man on January 18, 2007, 01:14:21 AM
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I thought I should mention, before you offer him a copy of that Su-2 book, that it was Libor who gave it to me in the first place! ;)

(Some people call what I just did "coattailling" - trying to share the glory of someone *better* by "riding on his coattails" - sorry, Libor! ;D)

John Thompson

John , thanks for the advise!
you just saved me from having a LOT of egg on my face.? :)
as for 'coat-tailing' I can only quote Bugs Bunny on that...
"If you can't beat 'em , join 'em!"


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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 19, 2007, 11:56:12 AM
John: LOL!? ;D That was a good one!
Btw, a good source is also Airmagazine no.1, albeit most of the info/pictures included there is the same as in that Russian book. Anyway, being printed on better paper the drawings and pictures are more usable.
Massimo: yes, more or less it is like that, both sets are "almost" complementary (but if you don't need the flaps then the Eduard set might be sufficient).

So, the wing and fuselage went together with some need of trimming and filling... Now I have to rescribe the panel and renew lost rivets.
Bye for now,
Libor

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=62726)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=62727)
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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 22, 2007, 12:34:40 PM
Over the weekend I played a little with the wing landings lights. The kit's items are quite usuable, I just painted them silver inside and bordered with thin plastic strips. I also replaced the wing guns apertures, they should be located slightly above wing longitudinal axe.

Bye for now,
Libor


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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on January 22, 2007, 06:46:39 PM
Hi Libor, :)
the wing leading edge appears a bit recessed close to the light. I suggest to check this before painting.
Massimo


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on January 23, 2007, 03:51:36 PM
Hi Massimo,

Thanks for your comment  ;); actually, I noticed that as well, but it is hardly visible on the kit (don't forget the piece of wing you can see on the screen is more than twice larger than real thing  ;D). But for sure, there is some little "oversanding" of the wing lower part; I think it won't be visible when painted.

Bye for now,
Libor


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on February 12, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
Finally, I was able to attach the canopy and make new sliding parts; then I masked them off using Eduard canopy masks and Tamiya tape. The kit got a coat of Mr.Surfacer 1000 and now I'm going to renew damaged rivet lines (btw, the pattern maker made fantastic job on rivets - some are flush, while the others are bulged and everything is obviously hand made - no 3D computer modelling here!).

Bye for now,
Libor
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=68365)
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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on February 13, 2007, 08:01:13 AM
The camo is on now... As only one picture of this plane does exist, I did not bother with the exact camouflage patterns that much and simply followed the AML painting guide, especially for the tail section. The paints used are as follows: AII Green - Gunze H302 Green, AII Black - mix of Gunze Flat Black and Tire Black, AII Blue - Aeromaster "Russian Blue", tail "patches" - Gunze Off White.? After applying the decals all will be properly weathered.

Cheers,
Libor

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=68857)
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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 13, 2007, 08:54:06 AM
Hi Libor, :)
nice to see your model. It looks an excellent one. Thank you for sharing the images.
Massimo


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Jet on February 13, 2007, 12:46:46 PM
Looks great, nice shading work  ;)


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on February 19, 2007, 07:57:51 AM
Thanks, guys!? :)

The kit is finished... Last alteration was replacing the turret Shkas gun from ICM SB kit (looks better then kit's item).


Cheers,
Libor

(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=70309)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=70310)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=70320)
(http://modelforum.upce.cz/forum/download.php?id=70321)
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Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 19, 2007, 10:31:36 PM
Hi Libor, :)
it looks an excellent model. Well done.
What did you utilize of the SB, exactly? The ring and the gun? Can the SB be built without these pieces?
Another question: should I ever write a page on Su-2, could I eventually utilize your work, with due credits of course?

Massimo


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Libor Jekl on February 20, 2007, 08:44:14 AM
Hi Massimo,

Thanks!  :)

Yes, no problem, please use it as soon as possible  ;D Such page would be very welcome! (still want to do at least one Su-2, probably with M-82 engine).

From the SB kit I borrowed only the machine gun, the rest is combination of scratchbuilding and Eduard parts (feed belt, sight). I plan to build the Czech license-built Avia B-71, which used different machine guns.

Cheers,
Libor


Title: Re: Sukchoi Su-2 1/72 ICM build
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 20, 2007, 03:32:19 PM
Thank you Libor.  :)
I'll wait for your second Su-2.
I have two kits with resin cowlings, but probably my models will be much simpler than yours.
Massimo