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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Colors, schemes, & research => Topic started by: FPSOlkor on February 02, 2007, 09:15:08 PM



Title: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 02, 2007, 09:15:08 PM
This topic was created as a "book of pro's and contra's". That is, specifically to discuss the interviews presented at this site, and to those who would like to leave some constructive criticizm to my work and to all those would-be authors of the other interviews.

Massimo, take a look into your box, and let me know what you think about it.


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 04, 2007, 07:09:10 PM
Massimo, did you recieve new interview?


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 05, 2007, 07:55:07 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've received your zipped 3 files. Thank you.
I'll examine them tomorrow with the due attention.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 08, 2007, 07:38:42 AM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've uploaded the new interview. It is very interesting, as usual. Thank you.
I think that someone of English motherlanguage should have a look to it. I've found some parts that are a bit hard to be understood at a first reading, but I don't know if my English is too simple.
I've uploaded only the low resolution versions of the photos, after some restoration. The hi-res versions were too heavy for web use.

So, Pomorov was a mechanic of MiG-1 too. Who knows if he remembers anything about the colors of the inner parts? Was the cockpit and the inner side of removable panels painted with shades of grey, or light blue and green, or what else?
Another question: those Yaks appearing on the photo of the interview with surprisingly dark undersurfaces... were they light blue, grey or what else?

Massimo  :)


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 08, 2007, 10:55:02 AM
Well, I would not be surprized, to find out that my english became rusty... But I do not know of anybody who is good enough in english to check my translation.

instead of
Wasn?t he welcome?
Please make
He wasn't welcome anymore?

It is better to reduce the image, then to try to increase it...

If You want to ask him some questions, make a list, and i'll ask him. But keep in mind, that he is an old man, with a rather weak memory...


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Jet on February 09, 2007, 01:59:43 AM
Well, I would not be surprized, to find out that my english became rusty... But I do not know of anybody who is good enough in english to check my translation.

Do you have text in original Russian? If so, my wife is fluent in both languages and could check it if you like  ;)


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 11, 2007, 04:19:04 PM
Sent another interview. It is rather difficult to read even in Russian, due to problems with memory of the interviewed... So we made the best we could. If you would like - please show it to someone to check. 


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 11, 2007, 09:18:06 PM
Hi Oleg,  :)
I've received it. Thank you.
I'll read it tomorrow.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 14, 2007, 11:06:41 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
the interview is online now. The translation is good.
A rose painted on a fighter? Interesting...
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 15, 2007, 06:17:41 PM
Thanks. Please insert

Interviewers:? Oleg Korytov and Konstantin Chirkin
Translator: Oleg Korytov
Redactor: Igor Zhydov
Interview taken on: 11.10.2006


?-22 means M-22


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 15, 2007, 10:27:23 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've uploaded the corrections.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on February 16, 2007, 07:22:10 PM
Link from front page does not work.

First photo
Not Starshina (independent rank), but Starshii (senior)


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 16, 2007, 09:59:07 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've done.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on March 28, 2007, 05:49:03 PM
Ok, I've done it again... Massimo, check your mail.


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on March 29, 2007, 07:35:13 AM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've received it.
I had a look to it, I'll read it carefully and upload it soon.
Thank you
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on March 30, 2007, 11:45:19 AM

So, Pomorov was a mechanic of MiG-1 too. Who knows if he remembers anything about the colors of the inner parts? Was the cockpit and the inner side of removable panels painted with shades of grey, or light blue and green, or what else?
Another question: those Yaks appearing on the photo of the interview with surprisingly dark undersurfaces... were they light blue, grey or what else?
According to P. inner parts of the MiG's (without specification which model) were painted in either very light blue, gloss black (so called Kuzbass Lak) or some kind of Caucasian skin color... Hope this will help. Undersides of Yaks were gray.? ?

Cockpits must have looked like this
(http://www.vzletim.ru/index.php?uid=std_get&uid_obj=file_5a765c526dc1a6967d9f26c66b93a824&skiphtml_f=1&popup=1)
(http://www.vzletim.ru/index.php?uid=std_get&uid_obj=file_a00ffbbb95322e8ae7559e3aa5f8bc1a&skiphtml_f=1&popup=1)


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on March 31, 2007, 06:57:47 AM
Hi Oleg, :)
thank you for this interesting information. Caucasian skin? Some light tan? This was unexpected! Could it be on wooden parts only, the color of the putty?
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on March 31, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
It means the color on the lower part of second photo... Not sure how it is called in english. Entire cockpits were colored in one color. The inner part of the fuselage usually was gray.


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 02, 2007, 11:39:02 AM
Hi Oleg, :)
thank you for the informations.
The inner part of fuselage... do you mean the rear wooden part, the inner face of engine panels or both?
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on April 02, 2007, 02:24:06 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
thank you for the informations.
The inner part of fuselage... do you mean the rear wooden part, the inner face of engine panels or both?
Massimo
I suppose it has to be the rear fuselage behind pilots seat...

How's the interview doing?


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 03, 2007, 02:18:59 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
I've uploaded the interview today. It is very interesting. Thank you for sending it.
Some point is not fully clear to me, I think that someone of English motherlanguage should have a look for small corrections.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on April 03, 2007, 07:50:44 PM
Allk malaria ended instantly.
And -"-

? Group or singular flights?
- You were training for -"-


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on April 03, 2007, 08:08:37 PM
Bochkarev was executed...
For some reazon mistakes appear which were not present in the original text - i checked...

Frontpage link does not work.


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Dark Green Man on April 04, 2007, 03:58:15 AM
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/pilots/kardopoltsev/kardopoltsev.htm


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 04, 2007, 02:15:55 PM
Hi, :)
I'll correct this on next days. If you find further things, in the meantime, please write.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 08, 2007, 11:25:24 PM
Hi,
I've corrected other things... but I don't find where Bochkarev is written.
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on April 09, 2007, 04:10:03 PM
My mistake  ;D - Bychkov was the surname...

- This was that Bychkov?

Yes, we had found some propaganda lists sighned by him?

(The memory must have failed Benedikt Ilyich in this case: 937 IAP commander Kolzov was killed on 7.11.43, and Bychkov was captured on 11.12.43, when he was deputy squadron commander in 482 IAP. Bychkov really was in 937 IAP earlier, and in 1942 he was sentenced for a crash, caused by him, what did not become an obstacle for him to become a HSU. According to the interrogation protocols, he did not admott him self guilty, claimimg that he never had any relationship with the ROA, and that Germans just used his name and title. No proof was found of his relationship, but he was stripped of his rank, awards and discharged from the active duty.)



? Did you complete some kinds of forms for kill claims? Or you would just report, and confirmation was non of your business?

All paper work was adjutants responcibility. Of course we had some problems with confirmations... One of my claims was not confirmed. It was almost at the end of war, in Grenau, near Neische. We flew free hunt. Marchenko took me with him, and he shot one down right by the field. It smoked and dissapeared... Another Fokker-190 was there, so I shot at him, and I saw how it rolled over on the ground, burning.
We landed and reported to IAP commander Sobolev: ?Shot down planes near our homebase, send someone to check, we will show where they fell?.
He said:
?You become impudent! If you shot down all Luftwaffe, who?s flying the? Do you want more awards??.

You become impudent! If you shot down all Luftwaffe, who?s flying then?


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 09, 2007, 09:51:26 PM
Hi Oleg, :)
well, I'll correct the page.
But I've not undestood: who was executed? Have I to add this?
Massimo


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on April 09, 2007, 09:58:16 PM
Bychkov... He was sentenced for treason and executed in 47 or 48...


Title: Re: Interviews and their discussion
Post by: FPSOlkor on July 06, 2007, 11:41:17 AM
Massimo
Not Kybarev, but Kubarev!