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On the Cybermodeler.com site their latest list of new and upcoming kits (  http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/2012_acft_manuf.shtml  ) they have a new La-5FN listed for release in November by Eduard.  Does anybody have any more info on this?  Is it a new mold or a rebox of the Zvezda kit?  I did not find anything on the Eduard site regarding it.

Not heard anything about it, and if no major blurb on the Eduard site, I would guess it's a reboxed Zvezda kit with etch and new decals. 

be interesting to know more though.

T

I would not mind a reboxed Zvezda kit with some nice new Cartograf decals.  The ones from Zvezda leave a lot to be desired.  I wonder if it's really a reboxing of the  Eduard 1/72 kit and mistakenly listed as 1/48 at Cybermodeler.

Indeed Eduard as announced an event with La-5fn and La-7 in the last august Info-Eduard.
Here's what wrote Vladimir Sulc in the editorial :

"For September, 2014, ?The Boys are Back will be followed up with another similar kit, tentatively
dubbed ?The First Ones Home?, dedicated to the Lavochkin La-5FN and La-7 and their
Czechoslovak pilots. The marking options will not be understandably as varied as in ?The Boys are
Back? due to the more limited action seen by our pilots on the Eastern Front, but the theme is as
enticing. It is expected that it will be as successful as the Spitfire themed item."

I was a bit surprised to see novembre 2013 on Cybermodeller.
Me think it will be a new model because of the La-7.
The Gavia one is showing it's age and new mold will be a must.
From La-5fn to La-7 differences are not that big.
We'll see.

Jean

Hi Jean, hi all


The editorial gives the idea of old molds revitalized with a new decals sheet, photoetch and perhaps masks.  A new mould is a great investment, and would be presented as a big news independantly from having been flown by Czech or Russian pilots.

It would require new wings, new fuselage, new canopy... despite the resemblance, it would be a completely new mould to build. Of course I hope they will do this some day.

Regards
Massimo

I asked Michale Benolkin at Cybermoder about it and was told that the 1xxxx stock number indicates a reboxing.

A thought occured, i've not heard of Eduard reboxing Zvezda, but they have reboxed the Academy P-38, and Il-2 [originally by Accurate Minatures, but now by Academy] and Academy have the Hobby Craft moulds...and they did do an La-5FN /La-7 kit, though I think the one was basically a rebox of the other, not sure which was which.

So, hopefull a Zvezda kit, with some decent etch and high quality decals that would be good, if not stupidly expensive.

I'm sure we will find out soon!

cheers
T

Nominally, Hobbycraft made a La-7 and a La-5N. This least one was not a real La-5, but a La-7 with cooler and few other pieces changed. It's impossible that Eduard reboxes such a bad kit.
Regards
Massimo

I would be very disappointed with Eduard if they reboxed the Academy/Hobbycraft La-5FN.  Their La-5/7 kits are absolute garbage. 

The La-7 will almost certainly be the Gavia, which they have already issued as a rebox before:
http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/la7reviewbg_1.htm

Due to their recent reboxings of several Academy kits (P-38, F-15, Il-2), I wouldn't be surprised if the La-5FN will be the Academy/Hobbycraft kit with some resin and new decals. We can hope for the Zvezda, but I think it is very unlikely.

Hi guys,

reboxing of gavia's La-7??? and even of Zvezda's La-5fn ?

Gosh with all the bells and whistles for the Boys are back, to sell the new Spit IX models with Czech pilots:
http://www.eduard.com/nsv/
and they will repop an old kit for this new proposed campaign???
Does'nt make sense to me.
We'll see ;-)

Jean

Hi Jean

well, from what I have seen of Eduard, they are not shy of making  everyone KNOW that an item is a new tool.

I've never read anything bad about the Zvezda La-5FN,  and the only complaint I have read of the Gavia La-7 is the narrow rear canopy.   Why spend A LOT of cash on a new tooling when the ones at hand are decent.

Eduard happily re- issued their Tempest only adding some etch for the wheel wells, and that is a kit that needs  a fair bit of work to make a really good model of a Tempest.

Also, regarding the 'Boys are Back' etc, Spitfires sell. Lots. And Eduard crank up the hype.  

wait and see is the answer, but if it's not plastered all over the front of the Eduard site in Flash format, expect new decals and etch on other kits.

T

  

I agree, Eduard would have been putting out the word that they were working on a new mold Lavotchkin months ago.
The Zvezda La-5FN is a very nice kit. 
I've built a couple of Eduard/Gavia La-7s.  It's not bad (actually it's quite good compared to the awful HC/Acad kit) but  the tail section is undersized.  Compare the rear fuselage and tail on the Gavia La-7 to the Zvezda La-5Fn tail section and you will see what I mean.  Here is a link to a build on Scale Models.ru where the builder attempted to remedy the Gavia problem:

http://scalemodels.ru/articles/6635-Eduard-1-48-la-7---krasnaja-strela.html

In my idea, the problem with the kit of Gavia is that the canopy is too recessed. Perhaps one could make better using the vaku replacement for Hobbycraft and adapting the fuselage of Gavia. It's a thing that we can see on the La-7 of Eduard too, that one excellent modeler modified with a vacu canopy for KP kit.
Regards
Massimo

I guys,

Me thinks I'm wrong after reading in the September Info Eduard that the next big project for 2014 is around the RAAF.
So a repop of Gavia's La-7 maybe with interior resin is coming and of course a rebox of the Zvezda's La-5fn

I'm very for myself thinking about a new La-7 was around ;-)

Anyway I'm looking forward for the november release.

All the best.

Jean

I just re-read the August Eduard Info, and realized it was written right there in black and white on page 5:

"in November, the 1/48th scale La-5FN (Zvezda)"

So, the La-5FN is definitely the Zvezda kit. That is great - except I have a Zvezda kit in the stash still with AML decals, Vector resin and Eduard photo etch, so I will probably give the Eduard a skip, depending on what accessories and decals they release with it. Still, the Zvezda La-5FN mold is a fantastic starting point.

I can't find anything in either the August or September Eduard Info, but I still think the La-7 will be the Gavia kit. Eduard has already re-released the Gavia kit in three different boxings that I am aware of, so it is very likely if they re-release the La-7 it will again be the Gavia. Of course, the Gavia is not perfect, but probably the best kit to start with in 1/48 scale without creating a completely new mold (now that would be something...)

This I found at Czech forum http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68170&start=3270#p1503816 (http://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=68170&start=3270#p1503816) about Eduard La-5FN:

1.) rebox from Zvezda + Cartograf decals + painted PE parts +resin wheels
2.) camouflages:
(http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=895077&t=1)

Still no info about La-7.
 
   66misos

Hi,
I've found another interesting thing on the same forum.
http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=894107 (http://www.modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=894107)
A new kit of Po-2 in 1/48.
Interesting painting schemes too, but I think that the green/brown variant should be the grey/grey camouflage introduced in 1945 for non-fighter planes too.
Regards
Massimo

@Massimo
A still have to buy a Po-2 but AZ Models are known to be not so good kits.
Unless that the Po-2 is the Eduard model?

Yes, the Eduard should be a reboxing of Gavia, but I don't know well it.
I thought that AZ were good, but I haven't so much experience of them. It would be strange if they make a kit worse than existing ones. I am interested to read a review when the kit will be released.
It caught my attention mainly for the two-shades camouflage; it is represented in this way in a Czech monograph, but the photos are more or less compatible with the grey-grey template of 1945, and I worked on a page on this argument few days ago.
Regards
Massimo

Michel, I don't know about their 1/48th scale kits, but I think the AZ kits are good short-run kits in 1/72nd scale (I have several of them).  Short-run kits are often badmouthed by people who expect them to be of Tamiya quality.  Interestingly, these people don't apply the same high standards when they review and/or build vacuform kits, however.

Regards,

Jason

I see the Eduard reboxing of the Zvezda La-5FN is now available:
http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/La-5FN-1-48.html?force_sid=4571ad5e08f150fc9d814497dd2a9228

The instruction sheet can be downloaded directly here, also showing the colour schemes that they offer:
http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/1183.pdf