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Great Patriotic War Aviation => MiGs => Topic started by: Dan_Cooper on October 27, 2013, 05:43:43 PM



Title: Transformation of MiG-3 kit to MiG-9
Post by: Dan_Cooper on October 27, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Hello again,

has anybody tried to make a transformation of a MiG-3 to a MiG-9 ?

Currently I'm building a 1/32 scale MiG-3 (Trumpeter) and while making progress
managing the idea to make a converison to the MiG-9.
But I'm not shure if it's doable specially since it would be my first conversion ever.

Has any one hints how it could be done?

regards

Stefan


Title: Re: Transformation of MiG-3 kit to MiG-9
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 27, 2013, 08:58:41 PM
Hi Stefan,
it is not an easy work: the nose is all to rebuild (perhaps one could try to adapt the one of a La-5, but there are not kits in this scale, for what I know) besides the fuselage should be a bit 'fatter', that is increased in height and probably in width. Besides there are not 100% reliable drawings.
A kit of MiG 9 already exists in 1/72. In 1/48, this conversion could make sense because there are more kits to cannibalize.
If you want to try a conversion, I suggest to turn the MiG-3 into an early production one, that requires modifications to the details of the nose, deletion of slats and few other things.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Transformation of MiG-3 kit to MiG-9
Post by: Tyronesdaddy on October 27, 2013, 11:12:01 PM
You want to convert a single engine MiG-3 into a first generation twin engine jet Mig-9?  Wouldn't that be a bit like converting a North American P-51 into a F-86 Sabre?  The designs are completely different in my eyes.  What point of commonality is there between the the Mig-3 and -9?  I think it would be easier to just scratchbuild it.



Title: Re: Transformation of MiG-3 kit to MiG-9
Post by: Troy Smith on October 28, 2013, 02:13:42 AM
You want to convert a single engine MiG-3 into a first generation twin engine jet Mig-9?  Wouldn't that be a bit like converting a North American P-51 into a F-86 Sabre?  The designs are completely different in my eyes.  What point of commonality is there between the the Mig-3 and -9?  I think it would be easier to just scratchbuild it.


OK, Dan means this  Mig-9

(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/i-210er.jpg)

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The new machine, called I-210 or MiG-9, differed from the standard MiG-3 for:

    * enlarged mid and aft fuselage to accomodate the new engine;
    * moving back the wing of 100 mm for cg reasons;
    * new plywood panels on the fuselage sides;
    * aereodinamically balanced rudder ;
    * NACA engine cowling with four easily removable panels;
    * two side exhaust stacks;
    * four fuel tanks for a total of 488 l; the ventral tank was still protruding;
    * two oil coolers VMS-8 installed in a tunnel under the nose;
    * AV-5-127A propeller, with 3 m diameter;
    * armed with 3 UBS 12,7 mm with 200 rounds each, and 2 ShKAS 7,62 mm with 650 rounds each; all weapons were installed in the nose;
    * landing gear doors without opening.

see http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/i-210.html

Of course the number was also used on the the early jet, I presume as the I-210/Mig 9 was not produced so the number could be re-used.

which is the early jet you refer too.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/Mig-9.svg)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-9

cheers
T


Title: Re: Transformation of MiG-3 kit to MiG-9
Post by: Dan_Cooper on October 28, 2013, 04:16:20 PM
thanks Troy of course it's the I-210 MiG-9 I mean.

Sorry, should've mention it.