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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Colors, schemes, & research => Topic started by: Spitfire on November 07, 2014, 03:42:02 PM



Title: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Spitfire on November 07, 2014, 03:42:02 PM
Gents,
        My Trumpeter 1/32 scale Mig-3 has been gathering dust in the loft for years now, it is about time that it got built, I bought some Montex Paint masks to build this subject http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/zarodinu.html.
Would I be correct in assuming that the aircraft in question would be painted with AII paints ? or would later AMT paints be correct ? or a mixture ?

Cheers

Dennis


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 07, 2014, 04:55:45 PM
Hi Dennis,
I would go with AMT paints on the upper surface, and AII light blue on the undersurface.
Please note that the doors of the tail wheel of this plane should be modified into the early type, with a window for the retracted wheel instead of a bulge.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Spitfire on November 07, 2014, 05:15:38 PM
Thanks Massimo, AMT-4/AMT-6 topside and AII blue for the undersides it will be.

Cheers

Dennis


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: learstang on November 07, 2014, 05:46:31 PM
That is a sharp-looking aeroplane! Do please post some piccies of the model, Dennis.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: 66misos on November 07, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Hi Massimo,
really green AMT-4?
That MiG was abandoned/photographed in autumn 1941, e.g. only couple of months after war beginning. Wheel door is early type. Missing paint at the wing root shows on relatively old/used aircraft.
Based on that info I would say that it is prewar MiG-3 with upper surfaces in original All green, with red stars on upperwings repainted with All green or AMT-4 plus black fields added. ???
Regards,
   66misos


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 07, 2014, 07:19:18 PM
Hi Misos,
I don't think that it was originally painted with the prewar scheme. In first place it has the late style cowling, and no any example of this variant has ever been documented with the prewar livery. Then, the prewar livery shows strong difference in the shades of green between metal and wooden parts, but I can't see this on the photos. At the end, the finish is matt while AII colors are glossy. Yes, the plane could be weathered, but one should still se the difference between a gloss green and the black that had to be almost certainly matt.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Spitfire on November 07, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
Another question, in the photos the Red Stars look as if they are plain with no outline to me or am I getting it wrong ?

Cheers

Den

And yes Jason I will post some photos if I don't mess it up !


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: learstang on November 08, 2014, 12:19:25 AM
I'll doubt that you'll mess it up, Den - I remember that nice job you did with the resin Yak.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 08, 2014, 06:28:35 AM
Hi Den, hi Jason,

unfortunately the photos don't allow to understand by sure if there was an outline. I think to see it in a small part, but it could also be an artifact due to jpg compression.

Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: 66misos on November 08, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
Massimo,
I see dark outline of the fuselage star on both pictures, here:
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/5a_39.jpg)
and here:
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/5a_40.jpg)

jpg artifacts are one option, but they are typical for high contrast areas - I would expected them more on "ZA RODINU" letters, but nothing is there.
Anyhow, black outline on red stars was pre-war style as well as red stars on the upper wings and fuselage, but no on the tail.
Here:
(http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/zarodinuf4.jpg)
the tail star looks differently from from the fuselage star, look like star added lately in the field.
Regards,
   66misos


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 09, 2014, 05:37:28 AM
Hi Misos, so it's likely that black outlines were on this plane. They weren't rare during the war too, there are photos of Yaks and MiGs with them.
Perhaps they were a standard for some factories; if so, one could suspect that all MiGs had them, no matter if they are visible on photos or not. Unfortunately this idea can't be easily demonstrated.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig 3 Colours
Post by: Spitfire on November 09, 2014, 11:44:07 AM
Thanks for the input guys, looks like black outlines then

Cheers

Dennis