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Great Patriotic War Aviation => MiGs => Topic started by: warhawk on July 07, 2007, 08:18:02 PM



Title: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on July 07, 2007, 08:18:02 PM
Does anyone have a photo of a late-type Mig-3 painted in Factory green and AII Blue?


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on July 07, 2007, 10:13:39 PM
Hi, :)
sorry, I don't think. In my opinion, only two prototypes, I-200 n.03 and 04, could have that color. However, all available images are in bw, so, at the end, there is not a definitive proof, only suppositions.
Eventually, the plane rebuilt by Aviarestoration wore this scheme at MAKS 2005, but there is no proof that it's historically accurate.
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on July 24, 2007, 05:50:18 PM
I read thad Zavod 1 painted their Migs "factory green". Did they produce only early or some late types painted like this?


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on July 24, 2007, 07:56:18 PM
Hi,
I have a lot of doubts about the use of the bluish shade called Factory green on MiG-3s. From photos, only prototypes I-200 n.03 and 04 seem painted with a so dark shade. The wrecks of an early MiG-3 shot down in Finland, in excellent condition, show more light and yellowish shades (different between wooden part and metallic part) and I think that this was the case of all early MiG-3s.
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on July 25, 2007, 09:01:33 PM
Do you have photos of those planes?


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on July 25, 2007, 09:19:23 PM
Hi,  :)
there are color profiles accompanied by photos of 03 and 04 prototypes on the MiG-3 page; a pair of color photos of the wrecks of the Finnish Museum are on the MiG-3 page too, while better color photos are on Airwarfareforum under the sub-forum Colors.
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on July 28, 2007, 11:09:34 AM
Wait, wait, wait... these are all early type Migs?


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on July 28, 2007, 04:00:14 PM
Prototypes and early type. Not late type.
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on October 31, 2010, 10:07:34 AM
Hi, sorry for raising the old topic, but in my eternal quest to find a late-type Mig with single-color uppers, I have stumbled upon this rather interesting photo (date and unit unknown)

(http://s2.postimage.org/9p855k7rd/Mi_G_3_40.jpg)

This is undoubtedly a late Mig, judging by the exhaust and the upper bulges. Could this be AII green or an AMT overpaint?

Regards,
Aleksandar


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 31, 2010, 11:09:49 AM
Sorry, I can't see the image.
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on October 31, 2010, 12:58:32 PM
How about now?

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/razno/KiIRS-af59f8.jpg)


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: marluc on November 01, 2010, 12:44:56 PM
Hello Aleksandar:

Do you mean the overpaint in the nose? At least to me,it looks like it was overpainted with black,not green.
Greetings.

Martin


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on November 01, 2010, 02:23:19 PM
Hi Aleksandar,
it's difficult to say. If you see how scarcely evident are the stars, it's difficult that a faded black has contrast enough to emerge on this photo.
However, some photos with late MiGs with solid green repainting are already known, as n.12.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: John Thompson on November 01, 2010, 02:40:02 PM
Interesting to know I'm not the only one who wants to find a late MiG-3 with green (not green and black) upper surfaces! I didn't have any luck either:
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=849.0

John


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on December 15, 2010, 09:33:57 PM
Yet another suspected all-green late machine, possibly from the same unit as the machine I have previously posted.

(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/razno/th_2075147D119D0942F8.jpg) (http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/warhawk_photo/razno/2075147D119D0942F8.jpg)

regards
Aleksandar


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on December 15, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
Hi Aleksandar,
this plane was photographed many times.
Please see http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/rough28.html (http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/rough28.html)
I'm nearly sure that it was camouflaged.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: warhawk on December 15, 2010, 09:49:25 PM
Foiled again!
I also suspected that plane, really interesting how demarcation lines completely disappear under certain light...
Thanks for the swift reply, the quest continues...  ;D


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: John Thompson on December 16, 2010, 01:33:37 AM
Hi Aleksandar,
this plane was photographed many times.
Please see http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/rough28.html (http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/rough28.html)
I'm nearly sure that it was camouflaged.
Regards
Massimo

I believed it was all-green too! As you say, the aircraft was photographed many times, and I was just about to upload five more photos to PostImage.org, so thank you for saving me the trouble... ;)

John


Title: Re: Mig-3
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on December 16, 2010, 05:51:52 AM
Hi Aleksandar and John,
there is a photo of a (possibly) all-green late miG-3 on Istrebitel MiG-3 of Medvedev, Hazanov, Maslov at pag.110, but I think that it's a repainting, with large stars. Unfortunately, eventual numbers are not visible, possibly being hidden by the pilot or cropped. If you want, I can scan and upload it, but it's not good for a model.
Some all green late MiG-3 are drawn here, http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/colors5.html (http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/colors5.html), but there is the doubt, anyway, that the interpretation could have been misleaded by an unclear photo.
Regards
Massimo