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Great Patriotic War Aviation => Lend-lease planes => Topic started by: steph40 on May 11, 2015, 06:28:51 PM



Title: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: steph40 on May 11, 2015, 06:28:51 PM
Hello,

Here is my last model. I wanted to depict the aircraft flown by kapitan Dmitri B. Glinka, 45 IAP (100 Gv.IAP), 216 SAD over Kuban during Spring 1943.
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1797%20Copier_zps4atuydow.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1799%20Copier_zps6rvydlbi.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1803%20Copier_zpsh0lzlrv1.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1804%20Copier_zpsfna10uap.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1811%20Copier_zpsgweamoqt.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1806%20Copier_zpsc5skuqbt.jpg)
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1816%20Copier_zpsonukaibu.jpg)

Hope you'll like her...
Regards
Steph


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: Spitfire on May 11, 2015, 06:38:57 PM
That looks great to me, the paintwork and weathering are really well done.

Cheers

Dennis


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: 66misos on May 11, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
Hi steph40,
That is VERY nice kit and unusual marking. Where are decals from?
According to the photo:
(http://www.mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-39/misos/dbglinka9.jpg)
red stars should be also on the upper wings.
What is color on the under surfaces? It should be Neutral Grey, but on my monitor it looks like light blue.
Happy modeling.
Regards,
   66misos


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on May 11, 2015, 07:57:05 PM
Hi Steph,
this model looks very well made and well photographed.
What have you utilized as wire for the aerials?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: learstang on May 11, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
Beautiful model of the Kobra!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: steph40 on May 12, 2015, 11:05:58 AM
Hello,
Thanks for your nice comments.
@66Misos, your photo shows apparently a P-39N, my project is an early "bird" of D. B. Glinka.
Here is my reference (it's you).
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-39/misos/glinkadb.htm (http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-39/misos/glinkadb.htm)

Not sure about the red stars on upper surfaces, not "automatic" on P-39s in first half 1943.
Russian manufactured aircrafts didn't wear red stars at this time: La-5, Lagg-3, Yak-1...
(http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx84/le_steph40/DSCN1820_zpsujlvaatr.jpg)

Regarding the neutral grey, my reference is:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_us.htm (http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_us.htm)
http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=36173 (http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=36173)

May be the flash of the camera makes the color too "cold"

Cheers


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: 66misos on May 12, 2015, 03:17:57 PM
Hi Steph,
firstly let me congratulate to you - you are the first modeller I know (who confirmed) who camouflaged P-39 kit according to my profiles ;D

Now seriously. You are right - VVS standard during WWII was without red stars on the upper surfaces, therefore Russian manufactured aircrafts (La-5, Lagg-3, Yak-1...) didn't wear red stars on upper wings at that time.
And yes, there are photos of Cobras without red stars on the upperwings - like one on the photo above from April/May 1943 on the North, airfield Vaenga - P-39M-1 "02" s/n: 424939 from 2 giap, latter transferred to 255 iap and renumbered to "14".

On the other side on this photo from May 1943 there is red star without white outline on the (very probably new) Glinka's Cobra:
(http://www.mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-39/misos/dbglinka9.jpg)
Same as on Pokryshkin's "100" s/n 42-9004.
Anyhow, as there is not hard evidence about Glinka's "21" it is a matter of personal prefferences/decission.

Decals of the number "21" and victory stars are home-made?
Regards,
  66misos


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: steph40 on May 12, 2015, 08:19:51 PM
Hello All,
@Massimo: antenna wires are dark hair of my wife :-)
@66misos: decals are from spare box (Begemot, Micromir, AML, Eduard...)

Thank you all for your nice comments, cheers.
Steph


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: 66misos on May 20, 2015, 10:18:49 AM
Hi Steph,
while browsing info about Pokryshkin I found this picture:
1.) Cobra P-39D-2 s/n  41-38416 from 45 IAP (100 Gv.IAP) - same unit as where D.B.Glinka belonged. Babak flew on it from February 1943 until 26 April 1943.
(http://airaces.narod.ru/all2/babak6.jpg)
Red star is on the upper wing.

2.) This N-version from the same 45 IAP and photographed on May 1943 has also red star on the upper wing:
(http://www.mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-39/misos/dbglinka9.jpg)

That is why I think that also D.B.Glinka's s/n 42-4403 delivered sometime in April 1943, e.g. between those two above, had also red star on the upper wing.
I know it is not hard evidence like photo of the upper wing of Cobra 42-4403, but on the other side, I did not see photo of any Cobra upper wing from that time and unit without red star ;)
Regards,
   66misos


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: steph40 on May 21, 2015, 10:26:21 PM
Hello Michal,
You're probably right.
But now, I don't know how to make the Pokryshkin aircraft SN42-4421 (white 13 or 130, not really decided yet)...??? I think it will be the same as the Glinka'bird, without the red star on upper surfaces.

Still thank you for your help and your work.
Regards
Steph


Title: Re: Eduard 1/48 P-39K-1-BE D. B. Glinka
Post by: 66misos on May 22, 2015, 08:12:30 AM
Hi Steph,
there is not known photo showing both serial no. 24421 and fuselage number. Same for "his" D-2. So definitive answer is still open. There is only "130" in official document and "13" from not very reliable memoirs.
We have photo of the D-2 from Feb/Mar 43 from 45iap/216sad with the red stars on upper wings and N-0 from May 43 from the same unit also with red stars on uper wing.
Pokryshkin's N-0 from 16giap of same 216sad and from the same time had also red stars on uperwings.

So statistically it is clear - 24421 "130" with red stars on the upper wings more resemble the appearance according to the actual publicly known documents.
Anyhow, 24421 "13" without red stars on the upperwings will more resemble usual/ traditional drawings/profiles from the past.
D-2 had 20mm canon in the nose, not 37mm.
Regards,
   66misos