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Title: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on March 14, 2016, 05:25:21 PM
Hello :)

I registered on this forum some time ago, and came back looking for some documentation for my current build :)
I figured out I could show my work here, to have some advice, and so that you could tell me if I'm doing something wrong, or completely inaccurate :)
My goal is to make a diorama of an Il-2 two seater straight wing, with some figures, and a gaz AA starter truck next to it :)

But first, here are some pictures of the actual Il-2 model (with some PE added, and a lot of scratch ;))

The inside :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4514.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4513.jpg)

The under-fuselage radiator :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4612.jpg)

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4613.jpg)

The gunner's 12.7 :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4618.jpg)

Scrath build of the engine cooling airflow exhaust, compared to the kit's one :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4631.jpg)

The kits radiator intake :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4522.jpg)

And scratch build :

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4634.jpg)

Some aluminum paper was added to simulate the reinforcement on the wings, and the machine guns and canons were made out of streched cotton-bud

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/16/03/92/74/img_4612.jpg)

The flaps are going to be represented as extended, so I made the mechanical indicator :

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/16/03/92/74/img_4711.jpg)

Out of Tamiya putty, I tried to make the karman, since it's not completely flat on the reall plane, I tried to get that tiny layer :

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/16/03/92/74/img_4716.jpg)

Here it is with the inner strucutre of the wing, seen when the flaps are down (all scratch build) :

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/16/03/92/74/img_4732.jpg)

And the top side of the plane, seen when the wings where glued, and puttied :

(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/16/03/92/74/img_4734.jpg)

I'm currently working on some figures, the truck, and redoing the aluminum paper reinforcements, since they should cover the entire wing, and not just the top side.
I had a question, concerning the gun fairing on Z.18 straight wings, was it completely round, or a bit flat on the leading edge ? Because Academy represents them flat, but I've seen some pictures of round ones on Z.18 arrows. I hope someone can help me :)

I hope you'll like my build, and that it's not too inaccurate :)


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on March 15, 2016, 08:46:56 AM
Hi,
it's a beautiful work, but there is an error:
Quote
Scrath build of the engine cooling airflow exhaust, compared to the kit's one :
It's a plate opened on the rear and on the low side, not a duct. The plate covers the fuselage side that has an outlet grille weakening its armour. I suggest to cut it, open it on its lower side and rebuilt the side of the fuselage under it.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on March 15, 2016, 11:44:36 AM
Thank you ! :)

Quote
Scrath build of the engine cooling airflow exhaust, compared to the kit's one :
It's a plate opened on the rear and on the low side, not a duct. The plate covers the fuselage side that has an outlet grille weakening its armour. I suggest to cut it, open it on its lower side and rebuilt the side of the fuselage under it.


I'm sorry, but I didn't really get what you say ? I'm don't really understand which part I should change ?  :-\

But thank you for pointing out what's wrong ! :D


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on March 15, 2016, 08:04:29 PM
Hi,

(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/16/03/92/74/img_4631.jpg)

this piece behind the exhaust pipes is the problem. It shouldn't be a duct, but a protection plate over a grille. The plate should be open both rearwards and downwards.

Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: learstang on April 01, 2016, 04:59:50 AM
Very nice work! Regarding the gun fairings, before the arrow (and some late straight-winged two-seater examples), Z.18 had squared fairings for the VYa-23 23-mm cannons.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on April 06, 2016, 08:57:06 PM
Thank you both of you for your replies :)

I changed the pieces behind the exhausts, because I was told what you told me, so I guess they are less wring now :)

Thanks Jason ! (it's seems you didn't get my MP ? I asked you about that, but maybe I didn't get it to be send  ???)


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 06, 2016, 09:27:57 PM
Hi, I suggest to file a bit the nose side just aside the front of the oil cooler intake recess over it. Academy ones look a bit angular on this part.
Regards
Massimo.


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on April 24, 2016, 09:40:23 AM
Hello :)

Here's a little update on my Il-2 :) I started painting it, using Massimo Tessitori's drawings :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4718.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4717.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4721.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4720.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4722.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4719.jpg)

It still needs some work, berofe getting it's winter camouflage over it :)

I hope you like it ! :)


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on April 24, 2016, 12:17:31 PM
Hi,
it is a beautiful work. I like the rivets too, it is a lot of work on this model.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on April 24, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Hi,
it is a beautiful work. I like the rivets too, it is a lot of work on this model.
Regards
Massimo

Thank you very much Massimo ! It means a lot since I'm also using your work for it ! :)


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: learstang on May 10, 2016, 04:20:55 AM
That looks great with the paint on!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: Jirokoh on May 16, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Seems I haven't posted in a while up here !   :-X

So before I applied the winter camouflage, I went on trying to work on the differents shades of the camouflage :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4831.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4833.jpg)

Then I applyied the winter camouflage, based on Massimo's profile :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_6911.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_6910.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_6912.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_6913.jpg)

And a last picture with the first figure that will go on it (and my very first figure, not very big at 1/72nd scale!)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_6914.jpg)

Then I tried scratching the flaps, since Academy doesn't give us the option to do it :

Here is my first attempt :
(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4836.jpg)

But that those structures are too high for the size of flap, so I did a secid version :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4835.jpg)

But then I saw on pictures that the structures were not all evenly seperated, as you can see on this picture :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/mwp_il10.jpg)

So, I unglued everything, and got back to work, finally here it is :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4851.jpg)

And all four flaps are done :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4843.jpg)

I couldn't resist trying to see what it could look like :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4846.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4844.jpg)

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4845.jpg)

And I rally like this last picture :

(http://i86.servimg.com/u/f86/16/03/92/74/img_4847.jpg)

That's all for the moment :) I hope you like it ! :D

If you see anything wrong, please tell me :)


Title: Re: 1/72nd Academy Il-2 two seater straight wing
Post by: learstang on January 04, 2017, 01:27:24 AM
This was a very nice model - did you ever finish it?

Regards,

Jason