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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Model Kits => Topic started by: Markino on May 18, 2016, 12:54:53 PM



Title: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 18, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
Hi guys, I would to ask you some soggestions about Yak-1 in 1/48 scale: wich is the best, the most correct? Eduard or Accurate Miniatures?

Many thanks for your opinions.

Ciao!

Marco


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on May 18, 2016, 01:58:43 PM
Hi Marco,
for what I know, it should be the same mould. Perhaps Eduard has more decals or add-on details.
It's a clean and easy to built model, but it suffers a bit for a too wide canopy.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Troy Smith on May 18, 2016, 02:20:33 PM
Massimo is correct, the Eduard Yak-1 is a rebox of the AM kit, with etch, masks and better decals

Yak-1
http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/Plastic-kits/Limited-edition/Aircraft/YAK-1-1-48.html

details for 1b
http://www.eduard.com/store/en/eduard/yak-1b-1-48.html

The Southfront kit is more accurate
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1160.0

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/143595-south-front-48003-yak-1

this was reboxed by Modelsvit, with skis, and then also did a Yak-1b
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/157769-modelsvit-4801-yak-1b

HTH
T


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: xan on May 18, 2016, 11:05:34 PM
I did an "accurate miniature"  yak-1b and a "Modelsvit" one.
the modelsvit is more accurate, but it's a short run and more difficult to mount...
the worst default of the "accurate miniature" is the spinner oversized.


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 19, 2016, 09:02:31 AM
Hi guys, many thanks for your replies! In this case I think I will choice the Eduard's Yak-1... ;D
Surely a plastic kit is easier to correct than a resin kit (Vector's LaGG-3 docet...)

Massimo how much the canopy is too wide in the kit? There is pictures showing that?

Ciao!

Marco


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Troy Smith on May 22, 2016, 04:20:09 PM
Hi Marco

if you want accuracy, don't bother with AM kit,  the effort of fixing it is going to be more work than building he SF/Modelsvit kit.

http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/yak1conversionreviewbg_1.htm
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Accurate Miniatures' 1/48 scale Yak-1 model is a great kit, but some questions have been raised about the accuracy of the shape of the upper fuselage deck and the canopy in particular. The canopy seems too wide (especially at the front) and too squared-off compared to drawings and photographs. The shape of the canopy will be tricky to fix, as it will require reworking the kit upper fuselage insert.

this is the AM kit

(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/images_7/yak1b_fcc_3.jpg)

compare
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4BeLx4LZC8Q/Vgu9dP4ocjI/AAAAAAAAA6g/i2CU09yU21c/s640/3_20b5e4cd.jpg)

the inner cockpit framing is square section in the AM kit as well.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ehtrOVc_Tho/U9CGm2cTXLI/AAAAAAAABQU/Q4BJMYHySis/w2422-h1816-no/IMG_0759.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Cockpit.Yak-1._Plane_of_second_lieutenant_Demidov._It_is_lifted_from_a_lake_bottom_(The_Murmansk_Region)_on_June_10_2012%D0%B3._Accident_time_on_August_28_1943%D0%B3._(8188779974).jpg)


http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/yak179/yaks-matvienko/yaks-matvienko.htm
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Accurate Miniatures Yak-1 is most detailed and most expensive of all. The kits is obviously based on the drawings from ?Pervyi Yak? but does not correspond to those well enough, for some reason. The fuselage is the most flawed thing in this kit, being too short and a bit out of proportion it gives the model a weirdly stumpy look. What roused the ?accurate? engineers to reproduce the fuselages framework by tubes with a square cross-section escapes me. Speaking of the transparent details, we discussed it with my friend and he asked if the window is open to throw them out right away. Transparencies, however, is a weak point for all Yak kits except Eduard?s Yak-3 that features a decent canopy part.

there is a build here of the South Front Yak -1 here
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1160.0

not a 'shake and bake' kit, but much easier than correcting the AM kit.

HTH


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 23, 2016, 08:23:35 AM
Hi Troy, many thanks for informations! Pictures speak louder than words! Accurate's Yak-1 is not so....accurate....

Also the cockpit squared frames are quite ridicoulos....

Surely the SF/Modelsvit is better for corrections...

I start hunting for SF/Modelsvit Yak-1... 8)...

Ciao!

Marco


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Troy Smith on May 23, 2016, 05:05:45 PM
HI Marco

Hannants have the Modelsvit Yak-1 on offer
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MVIT4802

note for the 1b, Unimodel reboxed the kit with a starter truck, which is neat pair
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/UNIM505

Don't know how the post for Italy would affect it.   Otherwise try somewhere like Armory

HTH


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 24, 2016, 09:20:51 AM
Hi Troy, many thanks for your prompt informations! But the plane with skis (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MVIT4802)  has the main wheels with tires also?

Which tha main differences with this one, please?
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MVIT4803

Ciao!

Marco


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Troy Smith on May 24, 2016, 02:24:41 PM
Hi Troy, many thanks for your prompt informations! But the plane with skis (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MVIT4802)  has the main wheels with tires also?

according to these photos, yes, it has the wheels as well
http://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/Yakovlev-Yak-1-Winter-version.html

mine is not to hand, but this was something I checked before I bought.

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Which tha main differences with this one, please?
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MVIT4803

Ciao!

Marco

no skis, and different decals., and more expensive ;)   I linked the cheaper ones!
sprues etc here
http://www.model-making.eu/products/Yakovlev-Yak-1-Early-Version.html

The UM Soviet airfield vehicles look to be good, which is why I linked the UM Yak-1 and starter truck as a  good deal if you wanted a diorama.

HTH
T





Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 26, 2016, 12:12:48 PM
Hi Troy, many thanks for all information!  :) :)
In the future I wish to built a Lidija Litvjak's Yak-1 (not 1B). There are some good images of her plane?

Ciao!

Marco


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Troy Smith on May 31, 2016, 02:32:08 AM
Hi Troy, many thanks for all information!  :) :)
In the future I wish to built a Lidija Litvjak's Yak-1 (not 1B). There are some good images of her plane?

Ciao!

Marco

the only 'known' Litvak plane was 'white 44'

(http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/foto1/raskov4.jpg)

see http://www.acestory.elknet.pl/litvak/litvak.htm


I thought there was a thread here about her, and what plane she flew,  and doubts if this is correct.   It's the one usually said to be her plane.

there is this shot but this looks like a different plane, a 1b, note looks to be a bubble canopy. 
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b9/4b/68/b94b68ce48e5ce64b06e7590618efee6.jpg)

HTH


Title: Re: Yak-1 1/48...suggestions about...
Post by: Markino on May 31, 2016, 12:30:24 PM
Hi Troy, many thanks for your information. As I can see in the first picture maybe it would be a Yak-1 M-105PA or M-105PF, I don't know well the differences between the two versions.
In this case I think is good the Yak-1 Modelsvit cod. 4802, due to the different shape of the rear canopy. Probably I will purchase the kit in Italy, because the Annants postage charges are too high; practically almost the same amount of the kit...

Surely in the second picture is a Yak-1b.


Ciao!

Marco