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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Colors, schemes, & research => Topic started by: PG monster on May 05, 2017, 02:56:14 PM



Title: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on May 05, 2017, 02:56:14 PM
Does somebody knows are these emblems personal or regimental?

(http://wio.ru/gal2a/ll/b25-13gbap.jpg)
B25 13 GBAP

(http://wio.ru/gal2a/ll/a20g1.jpg)
A20G1 27 GBAP


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on May 31, 2017, 08:56:30 AM
Pe-2 photo, same question

(http://images1.popmeh.ru/upload/img_cache/df6/df6321dd36f64c639f5adbaba041c5e9_fitted_800x600.jpg)


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on May 31, 2017, 10:53:12 PM
Hi,
what is the original source of this photo? Maybe there is something there.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on June 05, 2017, 07:12:43 AM
Hi,
what is the original source of this photo? Maybe there is something there.
Regards
Massimo

I just found it (Pe-2) on a trash site.


Also http://coollib.com/b/313255/read (http://coollib.com/b/313255/read) says the arrow is the regimental sign. I don't know....

(http://coollib.com/i/55/313255/pic_122.jpg)

They means this regiment -
http://allaces.ru/sssr/struct/p/apdd113.php (http://allaces.ru/sssr/struct/p/apdd113.php)

"A-20G-1 (серийный № неизвестен), 27-й АПИ ДО, Дальняя Авиация, весна 1944
Подразделение сформировано специально для использования ночных истребителей A-20G-I. Самолет довооружен по советскому стандарту. В носу белая молния – характерный знак для этого полка."
 


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on June 05, 2017, 01:40:12 PM
Hi Vlad,
looks likely that the white arrow was a regimental sign, not an individual or divisional one. Is it possible to know if the same unit had Pe-2s and A-20s in different time frame?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on June 06, 2017, 07:52:42 AM
27th GBAP was created specially to use A20G as the night blockers regiment in the end of 1943.
   "That's known" (c) GoT ;)
Renamed to 199th GAP NOB at 22.12.44. I don't think they got Pe-2 in 1945.


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on June 16, 2017, 05:15:44 PM
Well, I got some answers: http://wio.ru/simbols/bad14g.htm

The ace of spades is personal mark. 13, 14, 15 GAP AP DD had compositions in one style (the same division)


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on July 02, 2017, 12:18:31 PM
More arrows here - http://zaika70.livejournal.com/10870.html


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on July 02, 2017, 01:26:38 PM
Interesting images. Maybe some day we'll make a page on A-20...
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: LL bombers
Post by: PG monster on August 22, 2017, 09:55:25 AM
One more unit with the lightning emblem found - http://ava.org.ru/bap/260.htm
Very popular image in VVS.