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Modeling Soviet Warplanes => Colors, schemes, & research => Topic started by: PG monster on September 21, 2017, 01:51:16 PM



Title: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: PG monster on September 21, 2017, 01:51:16 PM
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Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 21, 2017, 08:12:04 PM
Hi PG Monster,
this photo is very beautiful. I wonder how the plane was painted. One can see that the number and the star under the wings are painted in glossy color, while the background color under the wing is matt. I think that it is painted as a night bomber. Probably the upper surfaces were black and green, the lower wing surfaces black, while a medium color looks under the fuselage and the cowlings were silver or grey or blue.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: learstang on October 01, 2017, 12:30:14 AM
Very interesting photograph. Were it not for the red stars, I would think that this were a civilian DB-3.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 01, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
Hi Jason,
my first impression was that it was similar to 'moksva', all red.  At a second look, I changed my mind. I've seen some photos of Il-4 that seemed all black, but probably were camouflaged on their upper side.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: PG monster on October 02, 2017, 09:12:35 AM
Probably this plane of Long-range aviation (ADD).


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 02, 2017, 09:19:48 PM
Hi, looks likely. When was ADD instituted exactly?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: learstang on October 02, 2017, 11:38:31 PM
Massimo, the ADD was created by decree of the GKO (State Defence Committee) on 5 March 1942. It was officially dissolved on 6 December 1944 when it was incorporated into the VVS as the 18th Air Army.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 03, 2017, 07:48:10 AM
Hi Jason,
so it is compatible with that type of marks without white outline.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: barneybolac on October 08, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
A Facebook find no other information except it was bought at an auction.

(https://i.imgur.com/GbGzvn1.jpg)



Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 08, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
whow!
It should be this one:
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapanidb3/db3red3cam.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapanidb3/db3red3cam.htm)
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: barneybolac on October 08, 2017, 11:41:34 PM
whow!
It should be this one:
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapanidb3/db3red3cam.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapanidb3/db3red3cam.htm)
Regards
Massimo

Yes it is another one to add to your collection.


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: PG monster on October 09, 2017, 10:52:14 AM
About the arrow at fuselage, there was the order of 5 SAK:
http://wio.ru/simbols/sak5.htm

"815 АП - в голубой цвет с красной окантовкой"
light-blue color with red outline.


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 10, 2017, 07:19:20 AM
Hi,
you mean this one:
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapani/27arrowdraw.jpg)
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapani/27-arrow.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapani/27-arrow.htm)

Light blue with red outline is compatible with the screenshots of 27
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapani/arrow2coll.jpg)

but not with this photo of similar plane.
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/db3-il4/tapani/arrow-comp.jpg)

Perhaps these planes are not both of the same unit. Is it possible an alternative identification of the unit?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: PG monster on October 30, 2017, 06:32:48 AM
http://waralbum.ru/332425/

Interesting Il-4 with P (cirillic R) char.


Title: Re: DB-3 cool foto
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on October 30, 2017, 09:53:20 AM
Hi,
yes, it is interesting.
My impression is that it is not a P, but a big 7 overposed to a smaller 1, probably of different colors that are not distinguishable on the bw photo.
Regards
Massimo