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Hi,
here I started work on the profile of the Polikarpov I-153 of M-62 version in light grey / silver livery:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342553)

I will be either this one with the probably red cowling:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342552)

or this one nicely documented:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342554)
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342555)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
plane 12 seems painted all silver, so it is atypical.
Regards
Massimo

wip shows small spinner and radio mast on the starboard upperwing indicating this is a 1940 model.
the other ones in photos are earlier models.

Hi,
here is current progress.
Massimo, so I decided for Red 7, it is not overall silver and is nicely colorfull.
Dark Green Man, thank you for correction, radio mast and spinner removed. Was there some antenna wire, please?

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342904)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
looks a good choice.
Will you draw a profile of the later version too, maybe with green/blue paint?
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,

thank you for. Yes, I will do also the latter version in black-green camo. It will be a 4-view so I look for photos showing the plane from at least both sides, preferably M-63 version. And it would be even better if upper wings are also visible.
I-153 was produced during years 1939 – 1941 so the latter version could have already blue under surfaces.

I have checked photos at http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/i15/i-153/i-153painting/i-153painting.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/i15/i-153/i-153painting/i-153painting.htm) and White 93 from the 71 IAP VVS KBF in August 1942 seems to be quite a good candidate. Anyhow, it has small spinner like a latter type but it also has the large side outlet typical for earlier M-62 engined planes. I also do not see areal mast. So it looks like earlier M-62 type - should it have light grey or light blue undersurfaces?

Best regards,
    66misos

Hi Misos,
you can find more on the planes of 71 iap kbf here:
http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/i15/i-153/tapani/71iap-kbf/71iap-kbf.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/i15/i-153/tapani/71iap-kbf/71iap-kbf.htm)
There is a reconstruction of the upper camouflage too, but it looks not standardized.
I think that the planes were fully overhauled and repainted, so I think that their undersurfaces were blue.
It is very likely that they mixed pieces of different planes.
Regards
Massimo

Hi,
here is finished profile of the I-153 is lightgrey-silver livery:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1343324)

The next one will be camouflaged.
Massimo, thank for link and info. I wil try to reconstruct black-green scheme on the "White 93" with light blue AIIg undersides.

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
very good profile. Only, I think that the shadows of the wings and tail on the fuselage should appear straight. Besides, if the light comes from left, the light spot on the cowling should be more forward.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you :)

Here is summary picture of the White 93 and other I-153 from 71 iap KBF, 1942:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1343345)

Can be said that:
- planes 93, 24, 45 and 50 had very similar camouflage scheme, it looks like they followed one common template,
- plane 102 is also similar, it has only switched black and green color.

Regards,
    66misos

Hi Misos,
for what I think, these planes followed more or less the same template with the variation of the color exchange, and probably of a specular change as RAF did.
In general we see: longitudinal bands on the front fuselage, that become transverse on the rear fuselage. Similarly, they had transverse bands on one wing and longitudinal on the other one.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you for comment.
Here I started work on the camouflaged I-153 White 93 according to the photos and info in the posts above:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1343514)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
it looks good, but the undersurfaces seem very greenish.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
it looks like that. AFAIK light blue AIIg was lighter and had slightly different shade than light blue AMT-7. So I took samples of your
AIIg
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/chips/AIIlightblue.jpg)
and A-18f
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/chips/A18lightblue.jpg)
from http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/color-table.html (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/color-table.html) and mix them to get something like this my Akan AIIg paint chip:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1342183)

Note your AIIg is guite similar to AMT-7:
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/chips/AMT7blue.jpg)

while Akan's AIIg is more similart to your A-18f.

So I decided to go somewhere in between. Anyhow, I will change it to more blueish next week, I have no time for it now.
Thank you.

Regards,
    66misos

Hi,
here is finished left sideview on I-153.
EDIT: corrected picture is in my next post.
Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
the prop blades should be all black as wartime standard.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you for correction. Here is updated picture:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1344501)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos, now I think... the reflection of the sky on the fuselage should be interrupted under the upper wing, at least in its upper part.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you, you are absolutely right, I focused on the propeller and missed that detail.
The corrected picture is in my post above.

Here is the same plane, but from the other side:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1346186)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
I think that the reflection of the sky should be deleted starting from behind the exhaust ( under the leading edge) and restart behind the rear edge, even in the shadow. Reflections can be  in shadow areas too.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you for comment. My understanding or interpretation is following - the plane is quite matt or semigloss. And that reflection is due to source of light - sun, maybe slightly behind clouds/haze, it is not reflection of the sky. That is why shadows are not so prominents and sharp.
Regards,
   66misos

Hi,
here is work in progress on the view from the top:
EDIT:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1345118)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
seems good. I wait to see the shadowed version.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
well, I-153 from the top is finished:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1346187)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
looks very well made. Only, the shadow of the wing on the left side of the fuselage should go down oblique and curved.
Are you sure that the black band on the fuselage left side and on the lower left wing are not connected?
regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
thank you for comment. You are right about that shadow, I will correct it.
I am not sure about that black band. However, I made it according to the plane no. 24 from ther same unit in the similiar camouflage scheme:
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/i15/i-153/i-153painting/I153-102-24.jpg)
At this photo the black band on the fuselage is clearly visible and is not connected to the black band on the lower wing.

In the meantime, work in progress on the same plane but from the bottom:
(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1345727)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
I see, it resembles the photo. But I would mark a more rounded outline made by brush. I think to see a thin black brush stroke on the junction between wing and fillet.
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,
corrected view from the top is replaced above and here is finished view from the bottom:

(http://modelforum.cz/download/file.php?id=1346188)

Regards,
   66misos

Hi Misos,
very nice, but I have the impression that the shadows of the rockets suggest a different light than the shadows of the fuselage on the wings and tail.
Regards
Massimo