Title: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Graham Boak on September 06, 2021, 04:41:29 PM The cover of Red Stars 4 shows a P-39 with red spinner, two diagonal yellow stripes on the tail, 32 red star claims above the exhausts, and a yellow snake with red zig-zag pattern on the central fuselage. The same (presumably) aircraft is in Osprey's Soviet Lend-lease Fighter Aces, but with white tail stripes, where it is credited to Sultan Amet-Khan in 9 IAP.
Are there any known pictures of this aircraft? Perhaps others would be willing to discuss this? I tried to look through the thread on VVS P-39s but access was blocked by a Trojan warning on all but the final half-dozen pages. Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: John Thompson on September 06, 2021, 05:18:02 PM I tried to look through the thread on VVS P-39s but access was blocked by a Trojan warning on all but the final half-dozen pages. Do you mean this one? https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1714.0 I don't have any problem with virus warnings on it; maybe someone with more software knowledge can suggest a solution. What I do see is entirely too many images with that annoying Photobucket overprint on them! John Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Graham Boak on September 06, 2021, 05:41:42 PM Yes. However I wasn't prepared to risk it on the off-chance that this aircraft might be referred to.
Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 07, 2021, 06:59:41 AM Bad to know about the alert. Has anyone had similar problems on the forum?
Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 07, 2021, 11:08:02 AM Daniele has scanned the page with Virustotal, it showed no warnings of menaces. Could I see the screenshot of your warning, please?
Regards Massimo Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Graham Boak on September 07, 2021, 11:39:47 AM Thanks Massimo and Daniele. Yesterday, when I checked the link in John Thompson's post, it showed the same message about Trojans. Today, it went straight to the first page of the thread, and I have since worked through the thread without problems. I have also opened the thread from the site directly with no problems. So it seems that whatever was happening has gone away.
I did find some interesting postings about grey P-39s but nothing about the cobra design. Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: 66misos on September 07, 2021, 12:58:40 PM Hi Graham,
(http://airaces.narod.ru/all1/amet_h12.jpg) (https://i-com.cdn.gaijin.net/monthly_2018_09/1_21.jpg.d1a1a8bdbaa84d666254bd6d49bd0b43.jpg) Cobra with the snake is a fiction, check pg. 12 (https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1714.msg17542#msg17542) at the link in the previous posts. Regards, 66misos Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Graham Boak on September 07, 2021, 07:49:16 PM Thank you, 66misos.
Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: 66misos on September 11, 2021, 10:38:25 AM Hi,
I found this photo at http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Jagdflieger/CCCP/Sultan_Ahmet/sultan.htm (http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Jagdflieger/CCCP/Sultan_Ahmet/sultan.htm): (http://www.pilotenbunker.de/Jagdflieger/CCCP/Sultan_Ahmet/sultan3.jpg) V. Lavrenikov, I. Borisov, A. Aleljuhin, A. Morozov, A.H. Sultan and P. Golovachev infront of a P-39 in 1944. Seems to be the same photo session as this one: (https://warspot-asset.s3.amazonaws.com/articles/pictures/000/004/140/content/002.jpg) Another photo, unfortunately does not show much from the Cobra: (http://soviet-aces-1936-53.ru/abc/a/amethan6.jpg) Regards, 66misos Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: Massimo Tessitori on September 11, 2021, 12:35:39 PM Hi Misos,
it seems to show its absence. Regards Massimo Title: Re: Amet-Khan's 'Cobra cobra Post by: learstang on October 09, 2021, 10:58:30 PM That's too bad about the snake - I have the markings like on that profile, and a painted P-39 to put them on. I may do it anyway as I suppose it's possible it was painted this way at some point, even though eyewitness accounts are not always reliable. Of course it's my model, so I can do any markings I wish, but I would like them to be rooted in fact.
Regards, Jason |