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Hi All,
I am working on a page about A-20 in Soviet service with the profiles of Tapani, with the help of Righidan and Alex Ruchkovsky.

For now, I have a provisional page with the versions of the DB-7/Havoc/Boston/A-20 in general, just to make an idea of the evolution of the plane before entering in the specific of Soviet service.
It is here:
https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/a20general/a-20general.htm (https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/a20general/a-20general.htm)

Please, let me know if you see something to correct or to add.
In particular, I am uncertain on the identification of some British versions.

Regards
Massimo

Great addition.
Although I'm aiming to do a stock USAAF A-20C myself, a lot of information You uploaded will be of use for me anyway.

Great to see this work Massimo,  and looking forward to more of Tapani's profiles.

(https://i.ibb.co/pW3Mbgn/avia083.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vsJTVbD)(https://i.ibb.co/bg4zhPb/IMG-6924.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tM08f4L)

Thank you both for the encouragement.

Hi Psy,
thank you, the photos show an A-20B with Gnejs-2 radar.  I am just looking for photos of planes with this radar, I already have those of Red Stars 4 and few more. In particular, I have drawings but no photos of A-20G-1 with Gnejs-2. The plane on Red Stars 4 has Gnejs-3. I know that a profile do exist, but I don't know if the serials were guessed. 

Correction: the second photo is of an A-20B, the first one an A-20 A, C or a Boston III.

(https://i.ibb.co/Gk78Z0y/IMG-6852.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ftMy32f)

Interesting, thank you. It is not a Gnejs-2, but another unknown type of radar.

Or, perhaps struts from the building on the background are joking me?
To tell the truth, I can't see the thin aerials of the Gnejs-2 on this photo.

It really doesn't look like any kind of radar. Although I can easily be convinced that the angled struts are part of the hangar structure, the horizontal ones are less obvious in this role.  However it would be a remarkable coincidence that the lines of all these items line up so well with the hangar structure.  I think it a standard A-20G.

This is a photo from the technical description of Gneiss-2, the antennas are where they should be, they are simply seen very poorly

I understand. Thank you anyway.

Hi all,
I have uploaded a provisional page on the type in Soviet service, still without profiles.
https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/sovietservice/sovietservice.htm (https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/sovietservice/sovietservice.htm)
Pease, have a look and let me know any problem you can see.
Regards
Massimo

(https://i.ibb.co/D4Vswmm/11111111.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tBmkYnn)

Thank you. Is the serial of the plane known?

Cool start, but A-20Zh is not good name in latinic. A-20G -> А-20Ж (cyrillic) -> A-20Zh (double transliteration).
I think A-20G is better.

I mean when you see А-20Ж in Russian docs, that means A-20G, because there arent latin letters at the typewriter.

Do you seen https://bellabs.ru/51/index.html

Excellent link, thank you.

Hi all,
I've added a further provisional page about the coloring of Soviet A-20.
Please, let me know any suggestion.

https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/sovietservice/colors.htm (https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/sovietservice/colors.htm)

Great work Massimo,  very informative!:) thanks for posting it.  And good to see more of Tapani's artwork too.

Hi Anton,
next pages will have many profiles. Thank you for your encouragement.

Hi all,
the page on A-20/Boston III is on line at http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/a-20.htm (http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/a-20.htm).   The page is rather wide, I am thinking just to add a gallery of details for modellistic use and few more.
Here is just a sample:
(http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/lendlease/a-20/tapani/a20G-VVS/9doublecock-profm.jpg)
Please, have a look and let me know your feedbacks.

Regards
Massimo

Wow guys ,  that is incredible!!!  The amount and the quality of work is excellent!
Blown away by Tapani's profiles. Really love the detail/textures/interpretations of the photographs. Superb work!

Thank you Anton, I am happy that you appreciate this style.

Realy cool! I just returned to my comp, so I'll dig it, thank you very much!

heh, I found A-20G number 9 at two my pages, thank you for pointing to my mistake.
Possible sign system of 218 bad: 48 bap - red caps, 452 bap - white caps, 453 bap - blue caps with white outline.
So, A-20G number 9 is from 452 bap.

Massimo, your typos :
GMTAB (must be GMTAP)
325 orap (must be 325 orae)

Well done Massimo & Tapani!
   These pages on the Soviet A-20/Boston are quite exciting, and shed a lot of light on a little known and treated subject.
   I would like to add a few details on the type B planes white 25 and white 15.
   These two planes were flown by the same crew: pilot, guard lieutenant Alexander Mikhailovich Suchkov, navigator, guard junior lieutenant Alexey Nikolaevich Shalyutin, radio operator, guard sergeant Ivan Iosifovich Mikhailov, gunner, guard sergeant Ilya Arsentievich Popugaev.
Among the millions of pages digitized in the site Pamyat naroda, you can find the combat log of 221 BAD.
   The first page is a rather futuristic color drawing of an A-20, and at page 106 you can find this famous photo:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51815007357_7354713bd5_b.jpg)
   It represents white 15, an A-20B-DL, serial number 41-3522, construction number 5852.
   The captions says something like that on 15/12/1943 the crew of Lieutenant Suchkov conducted reconnaissance of enemy troops in the area of Korotkovichi, when they were attacked by six Me-109.   The crew repulsed the enemy attacks, and the plane was damaged to the point of being almost uncontrollable, but the pilot completed his mission and brought the plane back at his airport.   For his courage and determination, the pilot was awarded the Order of the Patriotic War of the 1st degree.
   White 25 is the plane flown by the same crew in middle 1944, and after fighting with success six Me-109, I believe that they could rightly put a lion on their new plane!
   As Massimo site is a treasure cave, to find a description and photos of this second plane, you have only to go to: Lend-lease planes > neat nose art on A-20B "Boston" 3rd Sq, 8th Guards Bomber Aviation Regt. http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1472.0 where you will find a third photo of white 25, and a more detailed description of the awards and mission.
   Now Mr. Troy Smith has a profile of his favorite A-20.
Regards
Daniele

Hi,

Thank you Vlad, I've corrected the errors.


Thank you very much Daniele, now I have puntualized that both planes were of the same crew and inverted the order. Excellent research indeed.

Best regards
Massimo

New photo of cool "lion vs gebbels" battle here - http://ava.org.ru/bap/63.htm
Also, AR pointed the error: A20 number 12-8 is from 63 BAP, not 367.  367 BAP had not A20 at all.

Hi,
very nice image, but it doesn't allow to draw a profile in absence of informations on the serial and version. Is there some likely information that can be obtained from the visible number?
Thank you for the warning. The page has many nice photos.
Regards
Massimo

Another photo in that link shows the other side of the plane same lion tail art. Old RAF number painted in white both sides maybe only 3 digits?

(https://i.imgur.com/JGW3yQCh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Vx3KAwHh.jpg)

Hi,  I don't think that it was a ex-RAF code but a partial repainting of the US one deleted on the tail. Could be that they reported only three final digits to spare work on masks.

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https://goskatalog.ru/portal/#/collections?id=36891087
https://goskatalog.ru/portal/#/collections?id=36891066

Hi,
sorry to say, but that page gives '403 forbidden' as answer.
Could you upload the images on another address, please?

No prob
https://imgur.com/a/BmxOTbm
https://imgur.com/a/kiYPATW

Good images, thank you.