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Pre-GPW Aviation => Reconaissance, trainers and light bombers, single-engined, of '20s and '30s => Topic started by: John Thompson on January 03, 2011, 01:57:11 AM



Title: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: John Thompson on January 03, 2011, 01:57:11 AM
http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/l3updx1oqameun1ixyru.html

I don't know if it really is available now; ICM's web site shows that it was announced (or intended to be released) just over a year ago.

John


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: warhawk on January 03, 2011, 12:03:47 PM
It was announced for summer 2009, but still no trace of it...


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on January 15, 2011, 12:12:59 AM
Still waiting for this one.
On the other hand one old russian kit of U-2 reapeared. The what seems to be a copy of KP kit with all parts for Limusin and hydro version and streacher pods
I know that among other firms Modelist was producing it some time ago:
http://www.hobby.dn.ua/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=214&products_id=59132&osCsid=chpsn4bh2lps6ss087emdjrrc4 (http://www.hobby.dn.ua/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=214&products_id=59132&osCsid=chpsn4bh2lps6ss087emdjrrc4)

Got to get me one even only for version parts it worth it


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on January 15, 2011, 07:43:40 PM
I actually have the old KP kit; it's not a bad little kit.  I wonder if the IOM-KIT is a reissue of the KP kit - the surface detail, for better or worse looks the same, but the sprue breakdown with the additional parts is different.  If it's a reissue or not I didn't realise it had additional parts, such as for the limousine version, the floatplane, and the stretcher-bearing version.  I may just go ahead and get this kit - I had been waiting for the ICM kit, but it's not like the U-2/Po-2 is an expensive or large kit in 1/72nd scale.  There were certainly enough built to where I think I can find three different paint schemes and configurations for three kits.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on January 16, 2011, 04:59:30 PM
I did a bit of researching on this kit and is not KP but a knock of of KP kit with addtional parts and was issued and reissued by many mostly Russian companies.

KP company itself was recently ressurected by a Hungarian Expediens Ltd which bought the moulds from KoPro (ex KP) and market them under KP models label. Got one "new" KP U-2 kit recently at competition (with entire boxfull of other KP kits that were 4euros per kit) and it is the same old one with addition of sprue with skies and streacher gondolas and new decals. Acctually they have 3 packings but only one has the additional sprues (P72012).

New KP site:
http://www.kp-models.com/ (http://www.kp-models.com/)


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Walker on January 17, 2011, 02:09:57 PM
I know that among other firms Modelist was producing it some time ago:
http://www.hobby.dn.ua/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=214&products_id=59132&osCsid=chpsn4bh2lps6ss087emdjrrc4 (http://www.hobby.dn.ua/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=214&products_id=59132&osCsid=chpsn4bh2lps6ss087emdjrrc4)
Got to get me one even only for version parts it worth it

This repak Belarussian firms WORLD. Old model, was made on the basis of the KP.


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on January 17, 2011, 05:52:38 PM
Thank you TISO and Walker for the information!  One of these days I'll get around to building my Kukuruznik.  It's nice to see that on the box of the IOM-KIT they actually have the proper three-colour scheme.  Perhaps people are finally realising that the dark brown/green scheme did not exist for VVS aircraft (except perhaps for British Lend-Lease aircraft).

Regards,

Jason


Title: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS - comming soon!
Post by: warhawk on May 21, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
Good news everyone!

It is marked as "kit in progress" on the official page
http://www.icm.com.ua/211-u-2po-2vs-wwii-soviet-light-night-bomber.html

Glad to hear the project isn't dead...  8)


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on May 21, 2011, 05:50:56 PM
Nice to hear - I'll definitely be watching for this one.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: John Thompson on May 21, 2011, 09:38:34 PM
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_31346_start_20.html

Some discussion there, but still no firm details. Per the thread, there's a Po-2 model from somebody in an unknown scale on the cover of the May 2011 M-Hobby magazine, but apparently nothing about it in the magazine itself. ICM's web site doesn't help, and no sprue images have been posted anywhere yet, as far as I know. Personally, I'm not terribly pumped about this kit, but if there's slippage in releasing the Po-2, the 1/72 I-153 will probably be delayed too...  >:(

John


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on February 23, 2012, 11:50:41 PM
HMMM. Could it be?

63. Spielwarenmesse N?rnberg 01.02.- 06.02.2012
http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2012/Bilder_VH/index.html (http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2012/Bilder_VH/index.html)
(http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2012/Bilder_VH/Bilder_VH/ICM_01.jpg)


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on February 24, 2012, 12:27:04 AM
Well what do you know!  It certainly appears to be a 1/72nd scale U-2/Po-2 from ICM.  I wonder when it will be finding its way to our hobby shops - now that they've gotten this one out of the way maybe they'll have time for the I-153.  Thank you for the heads up, TISO!

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 24, 2012, 07:37:38 AM
Hi,
I've looked for a list of new releases, but  with only partial success. Has anyone found a comprehensive one?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: AC26 on February 24, 2012, 10:01:57 AM
HMMM. Could it be?

63. Spielwarenmesse N?rnberg 01.02.- 06.02.2012
http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2012/Bilder_VH/index.html (http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2012/Bilder_VH/index.html)
I think, that this demo model (same as a year ago?) is from a KP kit. Look at the low and thick windscreens, thick struts, landing gear etc.

KP was not a bad kit for it's time, almost 40 years ago. I have built three of them during the years modifying one into an S-1.

Cheers,

AaCee


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: John Thompson on February 24, 2012, 04:43:28 PM
I think, that this demo model (same as a year ago?) is from a KP kit. Look at the low and thick windscreens, thick struts, landing gear etc.

AaCee

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I'm sure I read somewhere that ICM used the KP kit on their display; why, I don't understand. That seems dishonest to me. Now watch them do the same thing with the I-153, using the Amodel kit!   :(

Hi,
I've looked for a list of new releases, but  with only partial success. Has anyone found a comprehensive one?
Regards
Massimo

Do you mean a general list of all companies, or just ICM? There was a list from Nuremburg, but it didn't include smaller companies who were not represented at the trade show. I would really like to see a future release list from Amodel.

John


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on February 24, 2012, 07:30:12 PM
Hi John,
have you a link to the list of the main companies, please?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: John Thompson on February 24, 2012, 10:46:17 PM
Hi John,
have you a link to the list of the main companies, please?
Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo! Try this; you can choose sorted by subject, scale, or manufacturer:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/kit_release_sched.shtml

John


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on August 15, 2012, 11:08:02 PM
Finally!
Photos of kit parts for this new Po-2 ICM kit are here:
http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=12224 (http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=12224)

and ICM page:
http://www.icm.com.ua/comingsoon/213-u-2po-2vs-wwii-soviet-light-night-bomber.html (http://www.icm.com.ua/comingsoon/213-u-2po-2vs-wwii-soviet-light-night-bomber.html)

(http://www.icm.com.ua/uploads/posts/2011-05/1305627960_variant_72241_eng.jpg)
(http://www.icm.com.ua/uploads/posts/2012-08/1344595027_sam_1132.jpg)
(http://www.icm.com.ua/uploads/posts/2012-08/1344595047_sam_10828.jpg)


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on August 16, 2012, 01:10:08 AM
Good news!  Thank you for posting, TISO!  It looks nice - I'll no doubt be buying one.  Now perhaps they can move on to the I-153.

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on August 16, 2012, 01:35:37 PM
Hi Tiso,
thank you for posting. It looks that the pieces for a basic plane are on the main sprue, while the other one has the pieces for the militarized version.
I suppose that a training only kit will be released, but I don't see hope to adapt it for the ambulance back. Probably the older kits will have to be kept good for that version.
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: John Thompson on August 24, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
Discussion on Scalemodels.ru:
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_31346_start_60.html

Worhy of note - Begemot are working on another monster decal sheet for this kit - 70 options on this one!

John


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: learstang on August 24, 2012, 06:07:46 PM
Only 70 options!  Considering how many Kukuruzniks were built, they should come up with at least 150 options (after all, they came up with 100 for the I-16).  Of course, were am I going to put 150 U-2/Po-2's (well, they are small)?

Regards,

Jason


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on August 26, 2012, 01:06:50 PM
Hi Tiso,
thank you for posting. It looks that the pieces for a basic plane are on the main sprue, while the other one has the pieces for the militarized version.
I suppose that a training only kit will be released, but I don't see hope to adapt it for the ambulance back. Probably the older kits will have to be kept good for that version.
Regards
Massimo
That is the reason i bought IOM-kit U-2. Check lik i provided on first page of this thtread. While that one is on the level of bad knock off of KP kit it does have extra parts for limusin i.e. back with glass canopy (even tough it will have to be improved somewhat), parts for Hydro version (big central and small wing floats), NACA cowling, skies (not that great but still usefull) and bashkiev strecher pods (in only one of new KP boxes (box - P72012) Bashkiev pods and skies are also present and are somewhat better than IOM but these are still usefull).

 ;)Heh I will make an attempt in future telling. I see in my christal ball that stocks of Pavla sets for M-11 engines and big sets for U-2 together with excellent PART PE sets will become somewhat limited commodity.  :P


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Massimo Tessitori on August 26, 2012, 01:47:52 PM
Do you think that the resin sets will be useful for the ICM kit too?
Regards
Massimo


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: Walker on September 01, 2012, 05:52:33 AM
Only 70 options!  Considering how many Kukuruzniks were built, they should come up with at least 150 options (after all, they came up with 100 for the I-16).  Of course, were am I going to put 150 U-2/Po-2's (well, they are small)?

Regards,

Jason

It was more than 100 options. However, due to the large size of the decals had to part (about half) of the options to the civil registration, cut.


Title: Re: ICM 1/72 U-2/Po-2VS
Post by: TISO on September 01, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
Do you think that the resin sets will be useful for the ICM kit too?
Regards
Massimo
Well it always comes usefull. BTW Pavla has 2 M-11 engines. One IMHO copied from Ne-Omega (seperate cylinders) and one in their resin sets and model kits (UT-1) that is one piece. As for bigger Pavla U-2 set it consists of engine, cowlface, 6 bombs (type is rather mystery to me) and their racks, 2 MG's (ShKAS and DA), propeller, skies and wheels. Usefull in any case:
U72-30 Polikarpov Po-2 set:
(http://www.pavlamodels.cz/images/resiny/air/72-30/72-30_1.jpg)

E72-04  Engine Shvetsov M-11 for Po-2
(http://www.pavlamodels.cz/images/resiny/air/72-04/72-04_1.jpg)