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 on: September 19, 2017, 03:47:02 PM 
Started by PG monster - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi, here is it.


 on: September 19, 2017, 03:28:22 PM 
Started by PG monster - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi PG,
about the n.51: I have a color photo somewhere that, although of bad quality, when the shades of green are corrected, shows a sort of grey-blue-green inside the number, certainly bi-color.  It is not impossible that they utilized some blue-green, but I think more likely that it was light blue, that was much more utilized. I'll look for that scan to show it.
About the bi-color spinner, I think you are right, it looks the same plane of the photo above. Hard to say the color, that is lighter than the engine cowling; I think more likely that it was solid red.
About n.21, the spinner can't be seen on the photo, it is a guess of Tapani. Do you know other photos of planes of this unit?
About the different inclination, if this is referred to 110, the rudder looks angled and the light is from behind, so it receives much more light than the fin. To say something more reliable, another photo from another inclination would be necessary.
Your criticism is legitimate, of course, please put into discussion all what you think wrong.

 on: September 19, 2017, 02:51:05 PM 
Started by PG monster - Last post by PG monster

No reason for bi-color spinner of №51. Also 51 looks full white, not blue.
No reason for bi-color spinner of №21.

And the most of bi-color spinners loks less contast at the photos, than "bi-color" tail of white 5.
What about that "can be due to its different inclination" ? ;-)

And the color of 110 number should be same as the cap color.

Sorry my criticism :-)

 on: September 18, 2017, 05:13:42 PM 
Started by warhawk - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
the most part of my documents are in Russian or Polish, but something in English too.
For what I think to understand, the ShKAS were utilized in the early production batches in 1942, but these totalized few planes. The production was interrupted due to technical issues, then restarted in other factories in late 1943. These improved planes had UB machine guns and were the vast majority of the Tu-2s built .
Jason has just published a book on these planes. I think that he can give a more detailed answer.

 on: September 18, 2017, 07:55:56 AM 
Started by warhawk - Last post by warhawk

As I have understood from photos, early Tu-2 bombers were armed with 3 7.62 mm (0.30 in) rear-firing ShKAS machine guns, which were later replaced by 12.7 mm (0.50 in) Berezin UB machine guns in the canopy, dorsal and ventral hatches.

When did this change happen, and which of these was more common during wartime?


 on: September 17, 2017, 10:17:59 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi Misos,
I think that it is traslucent white, that when overposed to green appears as a sort of light grey.  Looking at the shadowed part close to the numbers on the fuselage sides, I see that it goes into shadow as the white paint of the digits, while a metallic paint should easily show reflections on the parts in shadow.
I wonder if the lighter thin outlines of the white bands are real, or an effect of a strong compression of the image; JPG can make such artifacts where the darkness changes sharply. On the other hand, it can also be that the white bands have a thicker layer of paint along the outlines because they were at first contoured, then filled.

 on: September 17, 2017, 03:06:31 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by 66misos
interesting photo and interesting discussion at
Anyhow, IMHO this La-5 has thin, a bit translucent layer of the white over green. Instructions said that original camo had to be partially visible under the field-applied white winter camo.

 on: September 16, 2017, 10:25:11 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Here is it
The discussion is also about the possibility to distinguish white and silver on bw photos.

 on: September 16, 2017, 09:43:46 PM 
Started by John Thompson - Last post by barneybolac
I am impressed for this photo found on

It shows a La-5 with a winter painting, where the light color has replaced green. They were discussing if the light color could be aluminium instead of white.


It is unusual do you have the link on that forum?

 on: September 16, 2017, 01:57:07 PM 
Started by otto - Last post by Massimo Tessitori
Hi Pip,
looks interesting, but I am not sure to have understood well. Have you any drawing or photo on how the pin and the wire are positioned during gluing, please?

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