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Hi Massimo,
just did a more extensive comparison check on both monitors (with your VVS website and some threads from this forum) and can report that this problem is most pronounced with lighter brown shades (the AMT-1/A-21 family). These appear much more grey on my monitor. A noticeable, but not as massive difference also plagues the very light (olive) green shades - like in the relics labeled U-2 and Pe-2 in this thread. The lighter they are, the more sandy/yellow they look.

Especially crazy were the differences in the depiction of the first two color chips from this thread: http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1585.15, FS 20324 and FS 20372. On my "bad" monitor both look like concrete, 20324 a little darker and with a reddish hue. On my other monitor they appear as a "normal" medium brown and a sand color. One should keep that in mind when speculating about AMT-1 and its derivatives. I will definitely cross-check all these light brown/olive colors in the future on different monitors.


But: Everything else (Like the green-black LaGG-3 here https://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/colors/1941-43/1941-43.html. Each photo with AMT-7/-11/-12 as well.) looks more or less the same.

Cheers,
Christian

The I-16 of Agafonov wears a most interesting camouflage.

How do profiles of green/black planes appear on that monitor?

No.1 http://ava.org.ru/iap/87em.htm

...ok, now I did just check on another monitor and there it's very much greener and definitely not a sand color. Bummer... :/ But impressive to see how much the color perception changes with different hardware. Sorry Massimo..

Yes, that's the one. To me it's a sand color, with a slight olive-green tint, but definitely more on the sandy/yellow site...

Hi, just to be sure, is this the image that seems brown on your screen? On my one, it looks definitely green.

Regards
Massimo

Hi Massimo,

yes, I guess this could also be a very faded and discolored green (especially when you look at the dark green folded corners on the backside) but to me the topside also looks almost exactly the same as Akan's AMT-1 used by xan in his Po-2 build here: http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/board/index.php?topic=1585.15 (reply #28, it even matches the template). So I am torn..

(Another paint I have here and which looks exactly like the color in the relic is, funnily enough, AK Real Color's 061 Dunkelgelb 44).

Anyway, it was just a thought. I should have a look at these pieces on a different monitor..

Hi,
of course I can't confirm that the parts are real, but I don't see the sense to make a fake of them.
I am surprised that the first photo seems brown on your monitor, I see it as green. Yes, the position on the top of the rudder would be compatible with AMT-1, but it just seems green.
Regards
Massimo

Hi there,
I just discovered this thread and I am surprised that it got only so few responses. First: Can it be confirmed that these relics are indeed real and not just post-war fabrications? And then: Which one of these do you think shows AMT-4?
And: Could the very first one (captioned as U-2) actually be an example of that ever-elusive AMT-1? Sure looks like "dirty sand" or "coffee with milk" on my monitor. Okay, it has a slight greenish tint, but this could be due to the lighting conditions in the photo. Too bad we don't know when this piece was cut out...

Cheers,
Christian