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« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2011, 05:43:04 PM » |
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Looking good, Massimo! It helps me in my ongoing research into the paint schemes utilised on the Shturmovik.
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« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2011, 08:42:01 PM » |
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Nice work! The pages look very good. Makes me want to do an Il-2!
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« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2011, 09:39:45 PM » |
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Nice work! The pages look very good. Makes me want to do an Il-2!
For the love of Bog, don't! That's how it starts - with just one IL-2. Then before you can say "AII Brown was never used", you're sucked inexorably into a descending spiral of madness. I know! Regards, Jason |
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« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2011, 10:10:35 PM » |
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And just like the devil - they look better in black!  Anyway, I've had the 1/48 AM kits in the stash for years. |
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« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2011, 10:53:26 PM » |
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And just like the devil - they look better in black! Anyway, I've had the 1/48 AM kits in the stash for years. I just got a hold of the Eduard "kit bash" of the straight-winged two-seater ("IL-2M"). They just put the AM straight wings with the AM arrow fuselage in the same kit, with some masks, appropriate decals, and some photo-etch. Very nice kit; I've actually started cutting the pieces off the sprues and I'm tempted to start working on it, but it's not really my scale, and I've got two 1/72nd scale Shturmoviks I'm working on right now. I'm doing the Eduard arrow (also a very nice kit), as a postwar Yugoslavian example (simple grey over blue paint scheme and I can leave the fuselage metal), and the Eastern Express rebrand of the Dakoplast single-seater, which I'm doing as "Red 7", an interesting wooden-winged single-seater with a black underfuselage and white splotches on the aft fuselage and the wings. In addition to these, I've got a field-modified single-seater (with the makeshift rear gunner position), and an IL-2KR that I need to finish painting. The madness continues. Regards, Jason |
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2011, 08:34:27 AM » |
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Hi Jason,
is there an Il-2M of Eduard? I didn't know!
And what about the field modification into two-seater and Il-2KR? Are they resin conversions?
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« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2011, 07:06:05 PM » |
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Hi Jason,
is there an Il-2M of Eduard? I didn't know!
And what about the field modification into two-seater and Il-2KR? Are they resin conversions?
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Massimo, Eduard did indeed produce an "IL-2M", although it's now out of production. I found mine on eBay and it wasn't cheap - over $50USD including shipping, but I'd say it was worth it. No doubt Eduard will resissue it sometime when they finally tire of issuing every variant of the Bf-109E. The field mod is a nice resin conversion kit from HR, complete with modified rear canopy, decals, and guns with the appropriate mounting ring (either a 7.62mm Degtyarev or a 12.7mm UBT). The IL-2KR I'm making myself (there's not much more to it than attaching the antenna mast to the front, although I should have cut down the fuel tank for the large radio, but I don't think I'm going to do this as I decided to make this arrow into an IL-2KR after I'd already put the cockpit detail in and the canopy on). I could still attach a large camera on the gun mount - I might just do that; it would certainly be something different. Regards, Jason |
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« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2011, 12:41:55 AM » |
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I've now actually found a resin conversion set for the IL-2KR on eBay. In addition to parts for an IL-2KR (including the radio and camera), it comes with a conversion set for a ShKAS-armed field modified Shturmovik, and a production straight-winged two-seater version, along with a photo-etched set. This boxed set was made by someone called Meritko, apparently Czech. It's definitely worth it if you can find it. I suspect it's long out of production. It appears to be designed for the Smer single-seater but the parts can be used on just about any 1/72nd scale Shturmovik kit. I paid around $42USD for it. Not cheap, but I'm glad I bought it.
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« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2011, 01:02:02 AM » |
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I've now actually found a resin conversion set for the IL-2KR on eBay. In addition to parts for an IL-2KR (including the radio and camera), it comes with a conversion set for a ShKAS-armed field modified Shturmovik, and a production straight-winged two-seater version, along with a photo-etched set. This boxed set was made by someone called Meritko, apparently Czech. It's definitely worth it if you can find it. I suspect it's long out of production. It appears to be designed for the Smer single-seater but the parts can be used on just about any 1/72nd scale Shturmovik kit. I paid around $42USD for it. Not cheap, but I'm glad I bought it.
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Jason
Part of that set (or one like it) is still available from HR Model: http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/HRMC7222Also go here for more discussion, somewhere on page 2: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80844&st=0John |
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« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2011, 03:34:48 AM » |
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Thank you, John! I have actually bought two of the HR sets, and I've done the ShKAS-armed conversion, and just need to finish the painting (some day). I intend on also doing the UBT field mod; in fact, I plan on doing the 1/32nd scale Hobby Boss kit as this version as I even have the masks for the markings (thanks to Viktor Povinsky). I also need to start checking Britmodeller more often - I missed that thread completely! I did just now leave my tuppence, however.
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« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2011, 08:32:18 AM » |
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Hi John, The discussion on colors at Britmodeller is interesting, but, collecting the photos of Il-2 at http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/il-2/il-2.htm, I had the impression that the known schemes and colors were well respected on this type, apart for few images of obviously non-standard camos. Regards Massimo |
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« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2011, 08:25:29 AM » |
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Hi, a pair of interesting images from the thread on Il-2 on Scalemodels.ru:  Why is it so reddish?  interesting pattern, even if uncommonly seen. It has to be made by masking. Regards Massimo |
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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2011, 04:16:17 PM » |
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Hi Massimo! I was getting red X's, so I took the liberty of going in and editing your post to show the correct thumbnails from PostImage.org.
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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2011, 06:21:22 PM » |
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Hi, a pair of interesting images from the thread on Il-2 on Scalemodels.ru: Why is it so reddish? interesting pattern, even if uncommonly seen. It has to be made by masking. Regards Massimo I notice that in some places, the red seems to shade into the yellow (ALG-1?). Perhaps it's just ALG-1 that turned red over the decades. About the camouflage, that is interesting the way the bands on the starboard wing "interlock". That would make an interesting subject for your IL-2 page, Massimo, if you can figure out the rest of the camouflage. Regards, Jason |
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