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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2011, 10:24:10 PM »

Hi Konstantin,
thank you for your suggestions.
I'll make some modifications gradually. I should find some idea to improve the layout too.
About red stars with black outline; I've found a lot of them on photos. The black of the outline is not the same of the camouflage, but darker, and contrasts even on the black bands of the camouflage. I don't know if it's oil or nitro, but there is the T black nitrolacquer in inventory.
Hi Jason, hi Francis, thank you for your encouragement. Please, look carefully for each defect you can find.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2011, 10:54:41 PM »

Hi Massimo,
most of your page is how camouflage patterns on real planes complied or didn't comply with two drawings attached to the directive.  If pattern didn't comply you are writing about "non-standard scheme".  Non-standard scheme may mean non-standard colours and/or nonstandard pattern - like brown, light brown, tractor green colour or loops, tiger stripes, raised ramp pattern.

IMHO its better to call those "pattern variations" or "original patterns" or "different patterns", not "non-standard schemes".  June 1941 directive was mandatory - everything made between summer 1941 and fall 1943 was camouflaged in black-green!

a native English speaker (Jason?) or somebody with better English (Mario?) should correct many grammar mistakes.

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2011, 12:27:48 AM »

Konstantin, I think "different patterns" conveys what you're trying to say.  At least it does to me.  It doesn't indicate anything about the colours being different, just the pattern.  Also, Massimo, in the first paragraph about the Tu-2, you refer to it as the "IL-2".

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Jason
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2011, 05:56:35 PM »

Hi,
I'm updating the page with photos of other types. It has become long, so I think that the definitive version will be lightened and some of the documents will be transferred into pages related to each type.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2011, 08:49:13 PM »

Nice example of 1941 black-green scheme:



172 IAP 1941.

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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2011, 07:11:27 AM »

Hi Kontantin,
nice image, thank you.
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2011, 08:22:18 AM »

Hi,
I've updated this page, now accessible by the menu of the site.
After the Pe-8, I've added a collage of photos of a Yak-9 showing all the details of its camouflage, and a serie of photos of Yak-6 and a provisional template for black-green camouflage.
Unfortunately, photos of Yak-6 are not too many, and the work is still leaving doubts and has to be regarded as provisional.
Has anyone further photos of Yak-6 to help, please?
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2011, 08:29:15 PM »

Are these perhaps of use ?

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cww2/yak6.html
http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/cww2/yak6-i.jpg

http://crimso.msk.ru/Site/Arts/Art4484.htm
http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AV/AV06-4/36-2.jpg

http://forums.airforce.ru/showthread.php?t=1768&page=25
http://waralbum.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/SSSR-A-00831.jpg
(in the background)
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2011, 12:01:06 AM »

Hi Michman,
unfortunately, no. I have already all of them. Thank you all the same.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2011, 08:15:54 AM »

Hi all,
I've added some camo schemes of Il-2M (I know that it was not an official designation...) probably built in Zavod 1.
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