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I-15 bis of the 70 IAP Kalkhin gol war, may of 1939
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2011, 09:50:26 PM »

Hi Konstantin,
maybe someone could be interested if you resume here what they write.
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2011, 11:37:34 PM »

Is that the answer konstantin?



Do you know if the I-152 could carry four fab-100, or where they to heavy ?

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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2011, 11:57:45 PM »

Nice links on the bombs and rockets, Konstantin - thank you for posting!

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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2011, 06:24:38 PM »

Do you know if the I-152 could carry four fab-100, or where they to heavy ?

Too heavy!  Wink

Max bomb load was 150kg:  2xOA-25 + 2xFAB-50 (two 25kg fragmental + two 50kg explosiv bombs)

Bombs were painted in anticorosive gray colour.  Fragmental bombs had 15mm wide blue line around the cyllinrical part of the body.

Check M-Hobby text at:   http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_954_start_0.html

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2011, 10:13:46 PM »

Hi Xan,
Something like this would make an interesting model!   



Roll Eyes

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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2011, 12:15:40 AM »

Wonderful pic mister KL,
I've got this one too:



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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2011, 12:46:31 AM »

Xan,
interesting photo, what is the bomb type?  Huh

I would go with max bomb load and two different types of bombs (makes model more interesting)

Bombs were painted in colour called "sero-dikaya" (wild grey Grin think of wolfs or gray stripped cats).  Colour was widely usud, everybody has an idea  Wink, but there is no agreement about it...  Lips Sealed

It should be a mid gray with some green hue.  Some say it is similar to "Slate Gray" or German "Feld Grau"

Something like this:




Real FAB-50 found in Harkow:



FAB-50 drawing:

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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2011, 09:26:15 AM »

 Hi mister KL,
your pics are very helpful,
I would like represent the FAB-50 bombs and the AO-25 bombs.
I have i resin set of soviet bombs, but there is only Fab-250 and FAB-100 bombs.
I ask for FAB-50 if they exist or if someone have it but I get no answer...
I think that if I want to represent them, I will have to scratch them.
Do you know the dimentions of the bomb?

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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2011, 09:30:52 AM »

I have that fron the Po-2:



but I imagine they are smaller than the FAB-50...
Did I-152 either ever carrie small bombs like that?

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« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2011, 05:11:29 AM »



but I imagine they are smaller than the FAB-50...
Did I-152 either ever carrie small bombs like that?

Hi Xan,  Smiley
First, it's I-15bis, not I-152 Roll Eyes (I-152 was a single prototype)

Second, modelling expert like you would scratch build bombs just for fun  Wink ....  to show how they should look like.

Those long bombs included in your Po-2 are supposed to represent AO-25, but they are hardly recognizable - one reason more to scretch build  Cool

I will look for AO-25 information in my books, Internet search didn't yield any results.... Cry

FAB-50 dimensions are given on the drawing I posted yesterday - check right side for English translation!

Cheers,  Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2011, 11:21:13 AM »

Hi Xan,  Smiley
First, it's I-15bis, not I-152 Roll Eyes (I-152 was a single prototype)

OK, is it I-153 or I-15 ter as I saw sometimes?

Second, modelling expert like you would scratch build bombs just for fun  Wink

oh, I'm a lazy modeler...
I found that:


and buy it at once!
I will scratsch the two AO-25


I painted the AE-9 this morning, perhaps too blueish, I will show you this afternon ...

Xan
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2011, 01:54:36 PM »

Well here my new AE-9:




too blueish isn't it? I will pass a light gray very dilueted, but before , I wait for your rections...




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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2011, 03:30:30 PM »

Here are the last pics; I passed light grey and I'm quite happy with the result:

a pic on my desk:


another one on the window:



anyway, much better than in the begining, thanks to you Konstantin!

Xan
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2011, 05:33:39 PM »

The Ae-9 looks good to me, Xan!  Regarding the I-15ter, I think the "ter" was used for the prototype; the commonly accepted designation is I-153.  By the way, where did those resin 50kg bombs come from?

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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2011, 06:12:16 PM »

Here are the last pics; I passed light grey and I'm quite happy with the result:

a pic on my desk:


another one on the window:



anyway, much better than in the begining, thanks to you Konstantin!

Xan


hi Xan,
Your AE-9 is quite convincing, "like real"! Smiley
Don't forget to make AE-9 glossy.  Silver should remain "grainy" and "reflective".
It would be interesting to see the contrast between smooth/glossy AE-9 and rough/grainy silver AII Al

that resin FAB-50 looks very good too!.  you will have to add "wind mill" and brace its fins as per the drawing.

Cheers,
KL

PS>  I'll post shortly info re AO-25  Cool
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