I-15 bis of the 70 IAP Kalkhin gol war, may of 1939

[KL]

Hi Xan,  

your "uhvat k derzhatelyu" ("crutches" in English?) could be improved; inner and outer bomb racks were different (since they were designed for different bomb load)



There was a strip between front and back "crutch", but the strip did not go along the entire metal panel - wing surface was smoother than your model:




AO-25 was a 122mm artillery shell modified to a bomb (yours is the top one!)



Dimensions:
Length  1052-1058mm
Diameter  121mm
Tailfin diameter  145mm



similar AO-20, modified 107mm artillery shell:



HTH,
KL

 

[mholly]

"uhvat k derzhatelyu"

I would translate it as "bomb sway braces".
Cheers
Mario

[KL]

Hi Xan, 

your AII Z is too yellow and a bit too bright...?   

Also the varnish makes it too shinny.  The reflections should be somehow "scaled down". 

Cheers, 
KL

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Xan,
the oblique light band on the tail could be not a painted mark, but an adhesive tape to seal the joint between the stabilizer and the metal plate at its root. If so, a piece of decal would be more realistic.
Regards
Massimo

[KL]

Hi Xan, 
you should extend Light gray AE-9 all the way towards the propeller, like here:



Disc could be green, like here:


How are the bombs progressing?

Cheers,
KL

[xan]

your AII Z is too yellow and a bit too bright...[/color]?   
Also the varnish makes it too shinny.  The reflections should be somehow "scaled down". 

Hello mister KL,
happy to see you visited my forum...

don't worry about the vernish, I have to change it after putting the decals...
For the color, I hope it's because the pics was taken at night. Anyway, it's Akan AII green with a little bit of white, no yellow was added...

you should extend Light gray AE-9 all the way towards the propeller.Disc could be green, like here:
How are the bombs progressing?

Oh! you're right, I only look the walk around of the warbird, what a mistake!
the bombs are not progressing at all 

the oblique light band on the tail could be not a painted mark, but an adhesive tape to seal the joint between the stabilizer and the metal plate at its root. If so, a piece of decal would be more realistic.

Hi massimo, and thanks for the information. what about the color of the adhesive tape ?

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Xan,

Hi massimo, and thanks for the information. what about the color of the adhesive tape ?

Sorry, I don't know. I suppose that it's a fabric adhesive tape for repairs, it could be silver or light beige.
I've just seen a sealing with adhesive tape at http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV6psTA BW photo, of course.
Regards
Massimo

[KL]

A strip of fabric glued with clear nitro-cellulose varnish. Beige, I guess...

[xan]

Sit yes sir!
I did the corrections:

the nose:





and the tail:


I will put the tape later

in this pics, the adhesive tape is all around the metallic piece...



Xan

[xan]

Hello, I need your help;
I 'm going on with the I-15 bis...

I imagine the low part of the fuselage behind the engine was quite dirty with engine oil projection, but I don't find any pics...
the only one I found in the website don't show a very dirty plane...



would someone have pics showing this area ?

in those two pics , we can observ the same drty (smoke or something else) in the cowl





does anyone know what is it.

thanks

Xan

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Xan,
both photos are of the same or of very similar planes, and have similar serpentine on the landing gear covers. I think that they are oversprayed with some green or black in order to reduce the strong evidence of this livery from above.
These stripes doesn't appear on any other photos other than those.
Regards
Massimo

[KL]

Hi Xan,
Massimo is right, those planes were camouflaged in field.  Interesting enough, it's Halkin-Gol, 1939!
Described in Kondratiev's book



I-15bis were sprayed with unknown colour (could be light green, gray-green or gray?)





I-15bis of the 70 iap from the beginig of the tread; note the lower part of the engine disc painted in light gray AE-9??...

[xan]

thanks to both of you!
Konstantin, I knew those pics, they are all in this book:



have you pics of crasched I-15 bis, I would like to see if the engine with oil prjection gat the underside behind the cowl very dirty or not...

Thanks

Xan

[KL]

Hi Xan,
is this photo from the same book?  Is it Halhin-Gol too?


Do you have better scans of these two pics?



Two artis's impressions of these camouflaged I-15bises from 70 iap in June 1939:

[xan]

I don't thing the picture were taken during the kalkhin gol war (not taken of the "batailles a?riennes" magazine), but you will tell me more:



I understand better those profils seeing the pics you put, particulary the fourth one...

In my magazine, there is only the second the third and the fifth pics... (I discover now I had the fourth too)

yours are better than mine which have been cutted...

My plane seems like the crashed one...without the grey added camouflage.
I understood the grey added calouflage was added near agust. My plane was taken prisonier by the japs earlier isn't it (in may I think). The red"3" crached the 27 of april lost by Lieutnant Rybakov of the third squadron of the 70 IAP ?

Loocking at your pics, I notice all the wheels we see (in two pics) carries wheel spat (car?nages)...
Logically I would have to install them in mine too...
I have got spats in my I-15 bax, but it's not quite a good new for me, I have to change the gear struts too...
What do you think about this ?

here what my model look like actually:







Xan

Xan