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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2014, 10:44:53 PM »

Might be already seen but...
http://www.wio.ru/tacftr/bomb-gal.htm
http://topwar.ru/28408-voenno-transportnyy-samolet-li-2.html
http://www.ivki.ru/kapustin/journal/avia_hist.html
http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/li-2_2/index.htm
http://dkw-rus.narod.ru/batja.html
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han9
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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2017, 06:20:43 PM »

A few Li 2 vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFc9UYGF-as

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx5FL4gmH90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b59EdDO5VI
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2020, 10:12:51 PM »

Hi,
Tapani is working on some profiles of Li-2 and C-47 in Soviet markings.
I would understand the commonalities between the planes of these photos:


Li-2 (probably NB) n.419 features a 3 shades camouflage. The damage on the rudder suggest that it was utilized as a night bomber.
Note the slots for defensive 7,62 ShKAS machine guns on the rear window. The defensive armament included two of them in the rear fuselage, plus a fixed one on the nose and one 12.7 mm UBT on the turret.
About 600 Li-2NB were utilized by the ADD equipping up to 19 regiments; 384 of them were lost during the war.




Unarmed Li-2 n.406 of the 23 OAP GVF (Detachet Aviation Regiment of the Civil Aviation Fleet) in summer 1945.
The inscription on the nose means 'Berlinskiy', an honorary name given to the regiment. The planes are unarmed, and still have a 3-shades camouflage with black undersurfaces.


The first plane was probably a night bomber photographed in 1944 and the second image shows unarmed planes in 1945, but the tail numbers were extremely similar suggesting that they belonged to the same unit. But the unit of the second photo is a transport one.
I wonder if the planes belonged to the same bomber units in 1944, then they were disarmed and converted to the transport role and passed to another unit all together.
Can anyone help to make light on this?

Regards
Massimo
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Graham Boak
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« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2020, 10:51:48 AM »

The damage is to the elevator, but there's little reason to suggest that it couldn't be in the transport role when hit by flak - for example supply dropping to partisans.  Do you have any evidence that it was a night bomber - was it possible that the gun position window was standard on wartime aircraft?  After all the C-47 had simpler positions in each window.

It is interesting to find evidence for these aircraft and their use.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2020, 12:22:26 PM »

I haven't further evidence of a night bomber. I am looking for anyone with more informations on the photos, for example the date and the unit.
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66misos
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


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« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2020, 06:51:01 PM »

Hi,
according to http://allaces.ru/sssr/struct/p/trap8gvf.php Li-2 in the 23 OAP GVF flew transport missions, landed at partisan airfields etc.:

"За годы войны летчики полка провели в воздухе 116295 часов, совершили в тыл противника (в основном в Крым) 463 полета, перевезли 425 десантников, 7379,8 тонны боеприпасов, 5453 раненых бойцов."
Google translator:
During the war years, the regiment's pilots spent 116295 hours in the air, flew 463 flights to the enemy's rear (mainly in the Crimea), transported 425 paratroopers, 7379.8 tons of ammunition, and 5453 wounded soldiers.

Picture found at yandex.ru:


Regards,
   66misos
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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2020, 08:04:05 PM »


Unarmed Li-2 n.406 of the 23 OAP GVF (Detachet Aviation Regiment of the Civil Aviation Fleet) in summer 1945.
Hi Massimo,

Quite snowy summer I would say  Wink

Please don't take as an offence!

Cheers,

AaCee
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2020, 08:12:35 AM »

Hi AaCee,
you're right, the timeframe has to be wrong. Now I have to see where the caption was found.
Regards
Massimo
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PG monster
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« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2020, 04:18:02 AM »

Surely the photo of 406 is the end 1945. On the profile of 406 we can see "зима 1945". Moreover, the regiment got Berlin name of course after Berlin surrender, so it can't be the begin of 1945.
I absolulely agree about the same font means the same unit. The regiment can be disbanded not earlier than 1946-47.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2020, 08:02:50 AM »

So you think that plane 419 was not a bomber, but an armed transport? Are there other photos known of planes of the same unit?
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