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Author Topic: Propeller Blade Colour YAK-9 UT???  (Read 7418 times)
ReDsTaR
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« on: February 20, 2012, 01:58:40 PM »

Hello,
i have yesterday send Massimo a Email perhaps he can help me to identify the Coluors from a Yak-9 UT Propellerblade and the Description on the Blade,Massimo has mailed me perhaps that the Experts in this forum can Help me.
I have become a original Yak-9 UT Propellerblade from a friend,the Blade was found for many years in Berlin.
I would restored the Blade and i need the AMT Colours for the Blade an the Description that was painted on the bottom of the Propeller.
On Massimos Website is a little Picture from a Yak-9 UT Prop,here the pic:.

I hope anyone can Help me:-).
Thank you very much for your efforts!!!
Regards

ReDsTaR

P.s. sorry for my English.




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John Thompson
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 05:55:57 PM »

Hi ReDsTaR! Welcome to the forum! Here's a link to a walkaround of an early Yak-9P which had a similar propeller:
http://moskittech.ru/eng/myze/Yak-9P/Yak-9P.htm#z1

Images 1, 5, and 6 look like they will be helpful. Note that there is a total of 99 photos in the walkaround, spread over three pages.

Cheers!
John
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ReDsTaR
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 08:58:38 PM »

Hi John,
sorry,but i can`t open this Pics Huh
Is it possible that you can mail me this 3 Pics to: [email protected]
Thanks!
Hendrik

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 10:48:21 PM »

Hi Hendrik,

could you post photos of your propeller?  is there any original paint preserved?  If there is, you should conserve it, not strip it (like most restorers do)?
Any information about the original paint would be valuable - its FS (or any other) equivalent, type of paint, how glossy/matt it is, etc.

this is Monino Yak-9P, some 5-10 years ago:




the plane is misidentified as "Yak-9U"!  Propeller is mislabeled as VISh-105...
Propeller stencil (red text) is coppied from old Modelist-Konstruktor (No4-1975) article about Yak-3


The vertical text in the upper right corner reads:
VISh-105 Series-1
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 04:26:07 PM »

Hi again, Hendrik; the three photos I mentioned are the ones KL posted. I tested the link in my post and it works for me... Huh

Propeller is mislabeled as VISh-105...
Propeller stencil (red text) is coppied from old Modelist-Konstruktor (No4-1975) article about Yak-3
The vertical text in the upper right corner reads:
VISh-105 Series-1


I was afraid of something like that! I wanted to try to read the stencil text on the blade in the photo and check a reference to make sure the prop was the same as a Yak-9UT, but of course, I was in too much of a hurry. But I didn't expect that it had been repainted with the markings of a Yak-3 propeller - this just proves, once again - don't trust restored aircraft to be correct!  Roll Eyes

Thanks, Konstantin!

John
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ReDsTaR
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 06:10:25 PM »

Hi John,
this Informations are Perfect,exactly what I was looking for Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy!
I have send you Pics to your Email Adress,I have not managed to set the pictures here Huh
Perhaps you can send it here.
The prop was painted from a other Person,the same person that has welded the 3 Sticks on the Propellerbase Angry.
I think i must strip the Coating,perhaps under the paint is still original color.
I will begin over the weekend and will send pictures of the work.
Thank you very much again!

Regards
Hendrik
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2012, 06:53:47 PM »

Welcome Hendrick! Do not apologise for your english - it is much better than our German, Grin
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2012, 06:56:26 PM »

Hendrik has e-mailed me some photos of the prop blade he plans to restore and asked me to post them; here they are:



Nice, although it needs a bit of work straightening those edges! I wish I had one - I could use it as reference material for the Amodel Yak-9U I'm working on right now... Wink

(Actually, the Amodel prop is fine - it's the exhausts I'm having a lot of trouble with!  Angry )

John
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2012, 07:15:08 PM »

Thank you John,
the straightening is a little bit Work,but it is not so terrible.I will send you Pics from the work exceeded.
When you need references,I can tell you the dimensions!!!!
Perhaps you need Exhaust references,i have 5 original Yak9,and 1 Yak7 Exhaust stubs!
I will send you Pictures from it!!!
Regards
Hendrik
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2012, 08:19:27 PM »

This is Yak-9U at the Museum of Flight in Seattle:



Again the stencil is an exact Modelist-Konstruktor copy!  Although the propeller on this Yak could be a real VISh-105.   Huh?

How do you know your propeller type?  is there a plate or an embossed number?

KL
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2012, 10:32:27 PM »

Thank you John,
the straightening is a little bit Work,but it is not so terrible.I will send you Pics from the work exceeded.
When you need references,I can tell you the dimensions!!!!
Perhaps you need Exhaust references,i have 5 original Yak9,and 1 Yak7 Exhaust stubs!
I will send you Pictures from it!!!
Regards
Hendrik

Thanks, Hendrik; yes, I'd be interested to see the pictures. We could post those, too - I'm sure others would like to see them.

You seem to have a lot of Yak parts - do you have a Yak wrecking yard (like what's now called an "automotive parts recycling yard")? Wink

John
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 03:16:20 PM »

Hello again,
sorry for the delay,Unfortunately I was sick the last few days(influenza) i have one night only puked Lips Sealed(is this the correct word:-).i feel me a bit of slack but better.
I will see that i can send you Pictures from the Exhausts tomorrow!
See you all later Wink
Regards
Hendrik
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 04:26:09 PM »

 Cheesy Yeah, that word works - I use it myself for the same purpose. Glad to hear that you're feeling better!

John
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 07:19:41 PM »

Hi all,
@John
i have send you pics from the Exhausts.

I have striped the Propellerblade,and it was no old original paint to find Sad.
Is it possible that this colours whas used:

The Propeller Tip                = A-6 gloss yellow

The Blade                         = ANT-6 Black or AMT 12 Grey

Description on the Propbase = A-13 semigloss red or AII semigloss red

Thanks for your Help Wink

Hendrik
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 09:13:25 PM »

Hi Hendrik,
are you sure that the tip was yellow? The most part of the Soviet prop blades I've seen were black overall.
Regards
Massimo
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