Tapani's profiles of Il-4

[learstang]

That is an interesting variant of the DB-3.  I hadn't seen that one before.  It would make an interesting conversion, again if anyone ever came out with a decent kit of the DB-3.

Regards,

Jason

[KL]

Massimo,
For TsKB-54-1 you have

All surfaces were unpainted metal...

More preciselly, this is an example for anodized dur-aluminium exterior.  Unpainted anodized dur-aluminium is also mentioned in SB link - it was actually against 1937 regulations, so very rarely seen on operational planes.

For TsKB-54-2 you have

This aircraft was painted of silver dope.

In 1939 it was probably painted in silver AE-8.
AE-8 is enamel paint, not a dope! Nitro -cellulose AIN was a clear dope.
Dope definition from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dope

A type of lacquer formerly used to protect, waterproof, and tauten the cloth surfaces of airplane wings.

Dope impregnates fabric, paint forms a layer...
HTH,
KL

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Konstantin,  thank for the clarification.

Here is another one:

http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/dotted5.htm
Regards
Massimo

[Massimo Tessitori]

Some new drawings:


http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/TsKB-26-prototype.htm


http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/1serie.htm


http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/seaplane.htm


http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/moskva.htm

Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
was that red plane painted by some standard paints or by some "custom made" paints? There are pictures on  your mig3 page showing pieces from real plane painted by "standard" red and dark red.
Could such paints be used also for painting red nose Yakimenko's Yak-3 - dark red front fuselage and standard red star on the propeller spinner?

Regards,
     66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
I would guess that the colors coud be similar. I don't know if dark red was standard and what was its name, but a dark red was seen also on the MiG-1 in Veesiveehma for the number and trim fences.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,

in the article about TsKB-26 prototype at http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/TsKB-26-prototype.htm is sentence: "...and in another occasion it flew 5000 km with a 1000 kg payload at an average speed of 3254 km/h."

Probably you wanted to write something like 325,4 km/h.

Regards,
     66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
thank you for the advice. You guessed right, it was 325.4. Not a Foxbat at all!
Regards
Massimo

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi,
another profile of Tapani of a DB-3 with winter livery was uploaded at
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/db3-il4/tapanidb3/snow.htm
Regards
Massimo

[B_Realistic]

Massimo,

That's something for me.

Michel

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Michel,
are you interested into DB-3? It is very hard to model, with the poor kits available on the market.
Regards
Massimo