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B_Realistic
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« on: July 13, 2012, 03:25:55 PM »

Hi,

I'm currently busy re-working my Il-2 in a winter camo.
For the moment I already did some airbrushing on the underside and first weathering.
The picture of the wing is a little bit too dark to notice the different tones.







Michel
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learstang
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 07:35:45 PM »

Looks nice, Michel!  If those are rust stains, however, I'm not so sure about that.  I don't think the Soviets would have allowed the armour to rust - I realise that armoured vehicles often had rust, but the armoured front end of the Il-2 comprised the actual structure of the aeroplane, so any rusting could have compromised that structure, leading to catastrophic failure (remember that the steel armour on the Shturmovik was much thinner than that on a T-34, for example).  Another thing is I'm not sure most Il-2's lasted long enough for them to build up much rust!

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Jason
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 08:29:37 PM »

Jason,

that's not rust but dirt and dust representation. A kind of weahtering.
I've got a picture where you can see a brown build up.

Michel
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learstang
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 08:57:07 PM »

Jason,

that's not rust but dirt and dust representation. A kind of weahtering.
I've got a picture where you can see a brown build up.

Michel

Well, that's different, Michel!  The Shturmoviks undoubtedly got dirty.  Would you post that picture?

Regards,

Jason
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 10:53:12 AM »

Jason,

I'll still have to airbrush it more in black so you'll see the definitive result soon.

Michel
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 12:31:51 PM »

Hi Michel,
but what version of Il-2 is it? The wingtip balances are for singleseater metal-wing Il-2s, but the style of star was introduced in late 1943, when these planes were out of production. Please, keep us informed on the plane you have to reproduce.
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Massimo
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 03:35:24 PM »

Massimo,

This was the all metal Il-2 single seater from AM but the one I'm going to make is this one



The stars where from the previous one so if you can help me it would be great. Huh
I already filled the panellines of the rear fuselage.
Thanks to Jason to point it out to me. Cheesy

Michel
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 06:08:14 PM »

Hi Michel,
well, the photos show only the rear fuselage. It's reasonable to suppose that the wings were metallic, unclear if with 20 or 23 mm guns. The red stars under the wing could be plain, or with thin black outline, or with thin white outline (a frequent mark of zavod 18). Not with thick white and red contour. I think you would be better to change the stars under the wings.

Photos show the number 2 parallel to the ground, not to the flight line.
I don't think that the slogan was on the left side as drawn. Who would have gone to paint it under the tail surface?
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Massimo
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KL
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 06:51:53 PM »

unerside blue looks too light.   Huh  It should look like this



HTH,   Smiley
KL
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2012, 07:31:16 PM »

Michel!


As I know there was no dustfilter at the root of the wing of the early IL-2.

Istv
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 07:37:05 PM »

KL,

it looks indeed like that but the light of the picture doesn't give the correct color and also the weathering isn't very clear.
I'm sorry about that.
You need to see it in real.

Michel
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 07:39:40 PM »

Considering the fact that it will be difficult to make an early Il-2 I've got to reconsider my attempt to make that specific model. Lips Sealed
So if anyone can point me out to decals that I can use for my AM Il-2 that would be alot of help. Huh
My priority is a one that has a winter camo.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2012, 10:19:48 PM »

Hi Michel, hi all,
here is a plane that could be good for your model. It's a late Il-2 with metal wing, 23 mm guns, filter and external aiming device ; I'm not fully sure about the aiming lines painted on its nose. You have to omit the gunsight inside the windshield.  You have to delete the small balances under the ailerons, that were only on very early Il-2s.
As usual, it's a drawing made for the book of Jason.

Regards
Massimo
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learstang
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2012, 10:32:48 PM »

Michel, for a little background on that aeroplane, it was flown by A.I. Borodin, a Hero of the Soviet Union, and this is how the aircraft appeared at Stalingrad, winter of 42/43.  By this time, it definitely would have had the external carburettor intake filter.

Regards,

Jason
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2012, 08:41:14 AM »

Massimo and Jason,

that's a great looking Il-2. Cheesy
So the only thing I need is a white 6 or is it yellow 6. Huh
Thanks. Grin

Michel
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