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Author Topic: A p-40, anyone?  (Read 8165 times)
FPSOlkor
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« on: November 23, 2006, 05:14:29 AM »

103 GvIAP

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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2006, 06:47:15 AM »

Hi Oleg, Smiley
thank you for the image .
There is an interesting discussion on Soviet P-40s with Klimov engine here
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6683&sid=e4e7ad32bcb0c8c84239d93e9a51de32
Does anyone know more on this subject?
Massimo
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2006, 10:41:33 AM »

Hi Oleg, Smiley
thank you for the image .
There is an interesting discussion on Soviet P-40s with Klimov engine
Does anyone know more on this subject?
Massimo

The veteran haven't even heard about one...
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Audrius
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2006, 06:56:14 PM »

hello
excellent picture Oleg!
 Thanks for sharing. Do you know who are those brave pilots in beside P-40?

BR Audrius
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2006, 02:21:36 AM »

Do you know who are those brave pilots in beside P-40?
Of course I do. Grin
L-R: Kulakov, Demenko, Makuha
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2007, 10:30:00 AM »

The image is gone?  Cry


Fade to Black...
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 07:52:36 PM »

Yep, I asked Massimo to stick it up.... But i still have it in my archive..
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2007, 10:54:49 PM »

Hi Oleg,  Smiley
could you send a scan , please, so I can upload it? About 800x600, possibly.
Thank you
Massimo
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FPSOlkor
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 05:14:23 PM »

Hi Oleg,? Smiley
could you send a scan , please, so I can upload it? About 800x600, possibly.
Thank you
Massimo
You will have to wait for interview...
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 06:49:03 PM »

Hi, Smiley
I'll wait for it.
Massimo
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2007, 03:50:18 AM »

Hi Oleg, Smiley
thank you for the image .
There is an interesting discussion on Soviet P-40s with Klimov engine here
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6683&sid=e4e7ad32bcb0c8c84239d93e9a51de32
Does anyone know more on this subject?
Massimo

Massimo - I like your conclusions on the airwarfare forum. It appears these P-40's were converted using components salvaged from various LaGG-3 aircraft. The multiple-view drawing shows what looks like a late LaGG-3 spinner and prop, for example, while the example in the photo has an early spinner. In the photo, the unpainted sheetmetal on the side of the cowling seems to be a "patch", where it was modified to compensate for the higher thrust line location (and therefore exhaust stack position) of the swapped-in Klimov engine; likewise, the plate below the smaller early LaGG-3 spinner is a filler to compensate for this and for the larger nose of the P-40E (compare a 1/72 LaGG-3 spinner with a 1/72 P-40E spinner regarding diameter). The drawing also shows three bulges in the top of the cowling, probably made necessary by the higher position of the Klimov engine in order to clear the front of the cylinder banks or rocker covers and other engine fittings. This thread on the other forum is very interesting - I'm just waiting for my membership application to be confirmed!  Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2007, 09:03:23 AM »

Hi, Smiley
I see that you have examined the photos very carefully. I hope that some more images will emerge. Maybe one can make a model or a small page on this...
Massimo
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2007, 06:09:54 PM »

Maybe one can make a model or a small page on this...
Massimo


I admit it - I went and dug out a Hasegawa 1/72 P-40E, with just such a project in mind, for some later date. Heaven knows, I have lots of spare LaGG-3 spinners and exhausts laying around from Toko kits that I robbed for La-5 wing conversions...  Wink

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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2007, 06:36:05 AM »

Hi, Smiley
I've those pieces too. That kit is a mine of optional parts. Only, I have built an Academy P-40E, and I am not satisfied with its shape. I wonder if the Hasegawa  is identical.
Massimo
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2007, 01:48:53 PM »

Hi, Smiley
I've those pieces too. That kit is a mine of optional parts. Only, I have built an Academy P-40E, and I am not satisfied with its shape. I wonder if the Hasegawa is identical.
Massimo

Looking again at the artwork on airwarfareforum, (and assuming the artwork is correctly based on photos), it appears possible that engines/spinners came from Yak aircraft, too. I still think the spinner shown in the multiple-view line drawing looks like one from a late LaGG-3, but the artwork examples (which one would use to finish a model) are not so definite.

The Hasegawa kit is not the same as the Academy one. I believe the Hasegawa is generally more accurate, although there's something about the shape of the rudder that looks a bit odd. Haven't compared it to drawings yet, though. But it's the better of the two kits, as far as I know.

John Thompson
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