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KL
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 12:29:34 AM »

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Indeed it's not very clear (or perhaps, it is the Google translation that makes it unclear...)

not clear because Yak-23 is an obscure plane for Russian authors.  It wasn't a success story, it was made in relativelly small numbers.  It was in service with east european air forces in early 1950es; it was contemprary with early Mig-15s.

Monino Yak-17 was repainted many times.  Still, It looks that its interior could be more reliable:



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...in the second half of 1953 until the end of production, in 1954 to perchlorovinyl enamel HVE-16 of the same shade as the AGT-16

Perchlorvinil paints are not relevant for Yak-23.  those paints were used instead of nitro-cellulose paints for fabric.

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 12:51:24 AM »

More museum exhibits:

OKB Yakovlev/Zadorozhni Museum Yak-23 two-seater; most likely repainted in 1960es or 1970es - colour looks like Yak-52 cockpit colour.  Probably not authentic!!!



Krakow Museum Yak-23 during recent restoration; instrument panel and console may have been repainted, dark green looks authentic!!!


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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2013, 09:55:24 AM »

Hi,

Please bear with me...I'm still a little confused Embarrassed

Was the cockpit painted a mix of grey and green or green only?

Would the grey be A-14?
Would the green be the greener version of the ALG-1 z/c primer, the ALG-5 or another color still?
And what would the landing gear wells and doors be painted?

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2013, 09:13:45 PM »

Was the cockpit painted a mix of grey and green or green only?

Would the grey be A-14?
Would the green be the greener version of the ALG-1 z/c primer, the ALG-5 or another color still?
And what would the landing gear wells and doors be painted?

cockpit walkaround at http://www.airgroup2000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=224364 clearly show green instrument pannel, control stick and trotlle quadrant.  It looks that sides above consoles were originally green, and later repainted in light gray.  Side consoles may have been originally gray  Huh.





Green should be A-15f, the same that was used on wheels.

If there was any gray in cockpit, it was A-14f, like Yak-17 instr panel.

Landing gear wells and doors were gray A-14f.

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2013, 10:09:13 PM »

It seems that there are two different shades of green in this cockpit, the one on the control stick looks more yellowish.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 08:23:52 AM »

Thanks KL, very, very useful information Smiley

Green should be A-15f, the same that was used on wheels.

Please bear with me again  Embarrassed but I couldn't find this color anywhere on the 'VVS research page' of sovietwarplanes.com - perhaps, it should be added...Smiley
Is it in the Akan range? What would the closest FS595 equivalent be?

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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 08:33:22 AM »

Hi,
this is a postwar color, I have not arrived to include it in the table unless I extend the time range to Soviet postwar planes. Does anyone know if there is already some serious site on this matter, aside the Akan catalogue?
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 09:43:12 PM »

Postwar planes/colours are not my field of expertise.  Smiley

A-15f is not included in 1948 "Albom Nakrasok", IMHO, DM Green in this catalogue should be very similar or the same as A-15f. DM Green was a postwar aviation nitrocellulose paint for interiors:



Green wheels + gray wheel wells are common on Mig-15s.  Following is chinese Mig-15 in Seatlle MoF



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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2013, 03:13:02 PM »

Would the radome green (AKAN 73060) do, since it appears to be the same color as the wheel hubs?

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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 04:59:10 PM »

Thank you all for the huge amount of information!
I think I will stay with the pictures of airgroup 2000. I decided to install the pilot and keep the canopy closed, therefore not much will be visible inside  Wink.
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 07:24:10 PM »

Would the radome green (AKAN 73060) do, since it appears to be the same color as the wheel hubs?



no, I would go with dark green...  not faded, grayish green.  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2013, 10:52:08 PM »

Would the radome green (AKAN 73060) do, since it appears to be the same color as the wheel hubs?



no, I would go with dark green...  not faded, grayish green.  Smiley
KL

Thanks KL,

Now I've got all the details I needed to start the MPM kit. Smiley
...well...I still need to find a bigger house where I'll have enough space to set up a modeling lab Sad - currently living in a small apartment with my wife (Russian  Wink) and a 3yr old child...

One last question: would these interior colors apply to all the early Yak jets?

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2013, 03:30:52 PM »

Akan shows a ДМ зелёная in the 731xx-series (a future release?)
(link) http://akan.ru/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=877&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

Is this the correct color?

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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2013, 05:01:28 PM »

Hi Pete,
it would be good if Akanihin writes something on the use of each color, amd maybe on its samples. However, this is between ww2 colors.
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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 07:44:54 PM »

Akan shows a ДМ зелёная in the 731xx-series (a future release?)
Is this the correct color?

Yes, that is the correct colour!



Compare it with photos:


it would be good if Akanihin writes something on the use of each color, amd maybe on its samples. However, this is between ww2 colors.

Akanihin source is the same as mine - 1948 Albom Nakrasok:



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