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« Reply #195 on: October 28, 2013, 05:32:43 PM » |
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Hi, could somebody, please, help to identify type and color of bombs used on Sukhov's plane? Here are Russian options - FAB bombs http://www.hyperscale.com/2007/reviews/accessories/vectorvds72001reviewbg_1.htm None of them has circular/ring stabilizer. In my post #140 from May 27, 2013 http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1515.msg12611#msg12611 I posted screenshots from seems to be two flights. Here are details made from those screenshots: Bomb from the first event - there is square stabilizer, like on FAB-100, mentioned also in the Tabachenko's book:  Bomb from the second event - there is circular/ring stabilizer  :  Note apparently different colors on the right under wing. Another view on one of that bombs:  Could it be "Sero-dikaya" from KL's post http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1515.msg13200#msg13200?  Thank you. 66misos |
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« Reply #196 on: October 28, 2013, 07:49:11 PM » |
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Hi Misos, could it be this one?  Regards Massimo |
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« Reply #197 on: October 29, 2013, 08:49:36 AM » |
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Hi Massimo,
seems link is broken, there is no picture.
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« Reply #198 on: October 29, 2013, 01:59:36 PM » |
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Hi Misos,
I see the picture, try again.
To tell the truth, the bomb isn't identical to the one of the photo, whose empennages have a tapered internal gap.
Could it be a German bomb?
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« Reply #199 on: October 29, 2013, 06:56:00 PM » |
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Picture is not working on my end either.
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« Reply #201 on: October 30, 2013, 05:14:27 PM » |
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Hi Massimo, thanks for link. A lot of interesting info. This could be one of FAB-100 variant:  or one of FAB-250 variant:  used during "Highway exercise". What is their color? They both look quite dark for blue-grey "Sero-dikaya". 66misos |
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« Reply #202 on: October 31, 2013, 04:30:17 AM » |
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Russian modellers agree that sero-dikaya is gray-green; very similar to German Feldgrau. First coat is described as light blue. This combination is visible on post-war bombs. Bombs in Finnish museums are light bluish-gray or light greenish gray, lighter than German Feldgrau. A real mystery are Albom Nakrasok chips of sero-dikaya and light blue. Both are almost black! There was also a black varnish called "Kuzbas lak". It might have been used on bombs. HTH, KL |
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« Reply #203 on: November 01, 2013, 07:25:31 PM » |
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Hi KL, thanks a lot for info. So some dirty darker blue-grey-green could be appropriate color. Off topic. Four persons, or at least those three in background on the FAB-250 photo seems to be also on FAB-100 photo. Looks like official photo session with "approved" workers/figurants.  Regards, 66misos |
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« Reply #204 on: November 02, 2013, 01:24:17 AM » |
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So some dirty darker blue-grey-green could be appropriate color.
... or black... |
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« Reply #206 on: November 24, 2013, 06:20:51 PM » |
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Hi, I found two interesting photos on net, although not related directly to Sukhov's P-39:  No red stars on upper wings on Cobras being transferred from USA to SU. Note overpainted area (already in USA) on the left upperwing where original USAF marking was.  This photo brings new light to the post#9 from February http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1515.msg11116#msg11116Original Olive Drab is overpainted on the wings and tail edges with Dark Green. Regards, 66misos |
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« Reply #207 on: November 24, 2013, 07:58:50 PM » |
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The photo confirms what I said "Dark green was applied along leading and trailing edges to break-up outlines".
Dark Green could have been sprayed in units, not in factory... Dark green patches are commonly seen on 1942-43 B-17s, A-20s and P-40s. These patches are rarely seen on P-39s and never on Soviet P-39s... Correct?
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« Reply #208 on: November 24, 2013, 09:55:57 PM » |
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Hi Misos,
the photo of 253 is very strange. It is as if they used medium green for repaintings on all the worn parts of the plane. Couldn't it be that fresh OD and medium green are undistinguishable on this photo?
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« Reply #209 on: November 25, 2013, 05:36:44 AM » |
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Dark green "dapples" were supposed to soften the edges. Examples:      I haven't seen anything like that on Soviet Airacobras. Regards, KL |
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