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learstang
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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2013, 05:35:26 PM »

I can see pink, brown, and green, with some of the pink being more tannish.  I would have expected there to be some yellow from the nitroputtied fabric over the wood.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2013, 06:02:26 PM »

Yes, it's on the ring too. I think it's metallic. Which is the overposition of colors, in your idea?
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2013, 06:49:05 PM »

Yes, it's on the ring too. I think it's metallic. Which is the overposition of colors, in your idea?
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It appears to be green (probably AMT-4) over the pink, with the pink being over the brown.

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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2013, 09:37:23 PM »

Hi,
IMHO that fuel gauge was surrounded by a red circle, which was painted in this case over the green. Look at the left upper corner of the photo showing real gauge. Boundaries of the red circle are visible there.

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2013, 10:31:07 PM »

Hi,
IMHO that fuel gauge was surrounded by a red circle, which was painted in this case over the green. Look at the left upper corner of the photo showing real gauge. Boundaries of the red circle are visible there.

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I'm not seeing that, Misos.

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2013, 07:41:18 AM »

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Hi,
IMHO that fuel gauge was surrounded by a red circle, which was painted in this case over the green. Look at the left upper corner of the photo showing real gauge. Boundaries of the red circle are visible there.
I see a small dark brown triangle perpendicular to the radius, but it's hard to say if it's the boundary of a wide red circle. Is there evidence of similar red circles from any other source?
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2013, 07:59:14 AM »

Hi,
the plane was seen here:
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1361.15
Not red circles, but a lot of mysterious shades.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2013, 08:04:22 AM »

Yak-9 fuel gauge:

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2013, 03:14:59 PM »

Yak-9 fuel gauge:



Yes, that photo I found elsewhere. Is it safe to assume that the Yak-3 used that type?

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2013, 10:19:06 PM »

Hi Massimo,

thank for link.
Hi,
the plane was seen here:
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1361.15
Not red circles, but a lot of mysterious shades.
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Even pictures posted by myself Wink OK, no red circle.
As was discussed there yellow color is nitroputy. Black and green are camouflage colors. What is that red-brown color (on back side of fabric)?

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2013, 07:02:22 AM »

Hi Misos,
maybe a glue? Seems that the fabric is yellowish and the tan layer is underlying. But I marvel to find the same tan even over the ring of the gauge.
Something interesting is written on Colors of the falcons of Hornat, copied from V/O works. The material used to bond the fabric to the wood was supposed to be manufactured with a lead based compound, but lead was in short supply and was replaced by iron based compound on early spring 1943. This compound was susceptible to moisture and caused delamination of the wing surface. That problem involved Yak-1s built in Z.292. The iron compounds seems coherent with the reddish look of this layer.
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2013, 04:39:44 PM »

Here's a photo of the model with the fuel gauges as provided by KL. The photo is more washed out than the model -- it was hard to adjust the available lamp light.

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2013, 06:07:25 PM »

Still looks good, Pip!

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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2013, 09:39:30 AM »

Hi,

were propeller blades on their back side on Baranov's Yak-1 painted black only partially (bare metal/silver root of the blade) or is that scratched black paint?




Something like this Yak-1 'army series' pre-production batch:


or these UTI-26 trainer prototypes:


I saw front side of the prop blades on production Yaks always painted black, although those prototypes have them bare metal.
Thank you for advice.

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2013, 12:49:17 PM »

Hi Misos, looks really the early style of painting blades.  Strange, the shape of the rear windows is not of very early Yak-1s. Isn't there any photo from the front? Maybe they have utilized a spare propeller and have repainted it only in partial way... it's difficult to belive that all the front of the blades was left unpainted in 1942.
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