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« Reply #60 on: March 27, 2014, 11:57:24 AM » |
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Hey Massimo,
The struts are from the Eduard PE of the flap set. They went in very quickly, no real problems occured. The flaps are hollow and i had to paint the inside first, before folding it up.
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« Reply #61 on: March 27, 2014, 05:20:31 PM » |
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O my! A (possible) new discovery! Color question... On some photo's of La-5f, i see that the color of the main leg of the landinggear, sometimes lighter is then the wheel wells. The landinggear doors are also darker. I thought of two theory's
1- its a lighter color. How about silver/ unpainted/ aluminium?
2- the lighter color is a mindplay by the sun, reflecting on the camera?
Is this plausible?
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« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2014, 05:46:28 PM » |
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On some photo's of La-5f, i see that the color of the main leg of the landinggear, sometimes lighter is then the wheel wells. The landinggear doors are also darker. I thought of two theory's
1- its a lighter color. How about silver/ unpainted/ aluminium?
2- the lighter color is a mindplay by the sun, reflecting on the camera?
Is this plausible?
No, it's not plausible. Landing gear legs were made of cast iron/steel so it had to be protected (painted) against corrosion. |
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« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2014, 06:01:25 PM » |
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I remember to have seen photos both with light and dark legs on Lavockins of various types. It is real. Probably the dark color is the standard, the light one is a repainting during maintenance.
Regards
Massimo
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2014, 07:22:29 PM » |
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...oke, so they were painted and not "naked". Hmmm, the most logical conclusion is that they were painted in the color of the wheel wells. When repairs or maintenance occured, they were repainted in a lighter color. My personal thoughts were AMT-7 undersurface blue... A second thought is a bit different...the old interior aluminium color. But, the most logical is AMT-7. This color was available by maintenance crews. Any other thoughts??
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« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2014, 11:05:30 PM » |
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AMT-7 doesn't fit there for 3 reasons:
1. AMT paints were paints for fabric - think of WWI biplanes and 1911 technology. They were not designed to be anti-corrosive paints for steel.
2. legs were a sub-asembly made and painted at the different factory. Being made of steel, legs had to be painted with oil paits.
3. oil paints were supposed to be repaired with oil paints, nitro paints were supposed to be repaired with nitro paints.
HTH,
KL
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« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2014, 01:38:58 AM » |
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I have found some photos of two Lagg-3 wrecks and those two have their landing gear legs in two different colours!
-One is lighter bluish gray, IMHO A-14. Inside of the landing gear door's is light blue.
-the other one is darker green-gray, similar to the colour of the back armour.
HTH,
KL
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« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2014, 12:15:14 PM » |
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Thanks for the quick reply Konstatin!
I go for A-14 steel grey. I think i will spray it today.
Regards,
Remco
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« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2014, 08:50:58 PM » |
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O, no... I was so focused on the top, i forgot the bottom. And especially the landing gear bay... I see that there was a huge seam. Time to get the putty and pray it goes okay...  |
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« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2014, 07:17:45 AM » |
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I have found some photos of two Lagg-3 wrecks and those two have their landing gear legs in two different colours!
-One is lighter bluish gray, IMHO A-14. Inside of the landing gear door's is light blue.
-the other one is darker green-gray, similar to the colour of the back armour.
HTH,
KL
Darker green-gray - would that be ALG-5? That's the colour on the landing gear of the Il-2 at the Prague-Kbely Musuem. Regards, Jason |
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« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2014, 07:35:04 AM » |
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No need for zinc-chromate to protect cast steel, so it's probably something cheaper, a good quality oil paint. Similar paints were used to protect fuselage frames on Mig-3s, Yaks etc.
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KL
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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2014, 01:36:56 PM » |
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Progress is slow, but going on... Just filled up the wheel wells, and folded the flaps. The flaps are hollow,so i had to paint the inert first.   |
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« Reply #72 on: April 06, 2014, 09:04:47 PM » |
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The wheel wells are painted in A14 grey, now i am ready to paint the canopy section. This was challenging with masking. The Eduard set is made for the Zvezda canopy, and not for the Squadron vacuformed canopy i used. This required some modification on the mask...  |
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« Reply #73 on: April 06, 2014, 09:53:24 PM » |
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Hi Remco,
looks a good work. I hope that the new canopy will fit well on the fuselage. The fact that the masks for Zvezda don't fit is not encouraging.
Regards
Massimo
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« Reply #74 on: April 07, 2014, 01:51:59 PM » |
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Hi Massimo  I used only the rear section of the canopy from the kit. This because of the armored glass in the back behind the pilot seat. Then i know for sure it fits. Masking was done within the hour, but it was not nice to have another setback  . I see it as a price to pay for a nice looking model(for me of course  ). I just painted the camouflage spots on the plane...for a first time...freehand... It was not easy, but i am satisfied. First i thought that the AMT-11 was a bit dark. When i painted the AMT-12, it all comes thogetter...Now on to the metal parts like the access hatch for the guns and the aluminium bands on the engine hood! Regards, Remco |
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