P-39 Airacobras in VVS

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
observing the ruddes of the line, I see a lot of white paint over the od areas. I wonder why they look so badly painted.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
thank you. Here is finished White 111 from 21 giap:



I decided for blue front part of the prop spinner, as 69 giap had red one and Cobras from link http://ava.org.ru/iap/211g.htm about 211 giap had white front part of the prop spinners.
Regards,
   66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi misos,
excellent work as usual. It is strange that there are not visible repaintings of the serial on the rudder.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
Thank you. The whole rudder has different shade - looks like the spare rudder from the other plane and completly repainted. And those white blotches coulf be the remnants of the previous fast recognitions elements... Who knows?
Regards,
   66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos, looks likely.
Observing carefully the photo, seems that the rear brace of the star was deleted during the repairs on the fuselage, and then repainted again. Seems also that the top of the star wasn't repainted red at the date of the photo.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
I am not sure that I understand what you mean by "the rear brace of the star was deleted during the repairs on the fuselage..."
IMHO top of the star is slightly disappearing in shining of the glossy NMF reinforcement.
Regards,
   66misos

[PG monster]

pg_monster, what was, please, a color of the propeller spinner (and probably also fuselage number outline) on the Cobras in 21 giap http://ava.org.ru/iap/211g.htm? I would like to make also a profile of the White 111.

Sorry my late answer. Sadly I havn't the proofs for those spinners, so I don't know. Maybe you right (more likely), mabe not....

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
on the rear brace there is a thin white line that seems to divide the rear part of the star, repainted, and the older one. Anyway I agree that it is not necessary to evidence such small retouches on the drawing.
About the top brace: it could be shining, but if it is painted, the shining of the metal should not be visible through. Maybe it is retouched with a fresh glossy red...
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
You are right about the left tip of the star. I will slightly distinguish red color on the reinforcement.

Hi PG_monster,
At your page about 211 giap there are two photos of Lepelenko standing in front of two Cobras:
- white 10 with white tip of the prop spinner and with unfortunately uncomplete inscription "Za Vasju Bxxx". Do you know full text?
- white 77 - does it have also white tip of the prop spinner?
I suppose they both have 4 white stripes at the rudder.

regards,
  66misos

[66misos]

Hi,
White 111 slightly reworked/corrected as disscussed with Massimo:



Regards,
   66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
it matches the photo very well.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi,
another Cobra from 23 giad - now WIP of Proshenkov's P-39Q  from 69 giap:



and source photos:




Color of the number 46 is apparently darker than white picture of the woman and outline of the star - so is it yellow?
Rear part of the spinner is even darker than number 46. So is that rear part of the spinner, originally painted let's say white, repainted with some camouflage color?  It is relavively bright and glossy, so it will not be Olive Drab. Some VVS AMT-xx paint?  Green on the tail (usually) looks darker than OD, so I used light brown AMT-1. Who knows...
Still missing radio in the cockpit and painted lady between gigits 4 and 6.
Regards,
   66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
the paint of the plane looks relatively glossy and uniform. No deletion of serials and of national markings is visible. In my opinion it was repainted with AMT-4 green. the rear band of the spinner could be OD or what else.
Regards
Massimo

[66misos]

Hi Massimo,
there are stencils visible on the detail photo, so IMHO it is original OD. That plane was probably new (late Q version in late 1944), and/or cleaned and polished for the photosession. I also changed color on the spinner from light browvn to green AMT-4.
Plus I made OD more greenisch and darker (as a new one), so serial number and circle under the star are not so apparent.



Regards,
   66misos

[Massimo Tessitori]

Hi Misos,
in this way, the AMT-4 for the deletion of markings and on the spinner are different. I think that it's necessary to find another color for the rear part of the spinner, maybe some blue.
Regards
Massimo