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AC26
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 10:11:15 PM »

Nice to hear that my photos are helpful. If you have any questions regarding this MiG-3, I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge.
Hi Antti!

Would the tail feathers from Vesivehmaa also added to the Hyryl? display?

Cheers,

AC26
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 10:32:02 PM »

Nice to hear that my photos are helpful. If you have any questions regarding this MiG-3, I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge.
Hi Antti!

Would the tail feathers from Vesivehmaa also added to the Hyryl? display?

Cheers,

AC26

I hope so, it would be best if all the parts were in the same place, than spread out all over.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2014, 01:07:47 AM »

Thank you very much for the photographs, Antti! We discuss VVS colours all the time, so it's great to see some well-preserved examples of them. Welcome to the site!

Best Regards,

Jason
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2014, 07:09:36 AM »

Hi Antti,
welcome here! Your photos of these parts are a major success here.
I've often thought that joining these parts with the metallic ones found in Russia it would be possible to obtain a nearly complete plane for museal exposition.
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Massimo
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2014, 08:36:33 AM »

Hello Antti,
thanks for those wonderfull pics.
for the AIIz if we compare with that piece of I-16 we con see we are in the same shade of colours; perhaps the I-16 piece is more green, better conserved, and the piece seems to be wet....
the I-16 is a type 27 found in 2013 ; 650 type 29 have been produced, 80 of them in 1941, so it can be  AMT-4...






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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2014, 03:50:24 PM »

Thank you!
Personally I haven't done any research considering VVS colours, we have lot to do even with Finnish colours Smiley
It's very interesting and I'm starting to build a MiG-3 scale model, so this information is very welcome.
I'll try to photograph more of russian objects we have in our museum storage, when I have time. We have also original preserved rudder from R-5 and of course a Polikarpov U-2.

Antti
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 06:22:34 PM »

Hi Xan,
I don't think that the color of I-16 or MiG-3 is AMT-4. The MiG was built in early 1941 and painted according to standards of 1940.
The piece of I-16 doesn't show a zinc chromate background, so it's unlikely that it's a nitro paint as AMT-4, else it would have been much more chipped as the green on the lower part of the rudder of the MiG-3.
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Massimo
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2014, 08:18:40 PM »

I don't think that the color of I-16 or MiG-3 is AMT-4. The MiG was built in early 1941 and painted according to standards of 1940.
The piece of I-16 doesn't show a zinc chromate background, so it's unlikely that it's a nitro paint as AMT-4

Hi Xan & Massimo,

I agree with Massimo, both MiG-3 and that I-16 are prewar planes painted according to May 1940 camouflage scheme.  Green paint on metal parts is most likely A-19f.   Its colour was 4BO olive green, same as later AMT-4.  The only difference is that A19f was glossy while AMT-4 was flat (matte).  They were probably pigmented with different pigments, but that is not important for modellers.

Regards,
KL
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