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Author Topic: Mig-19s Farmer Aerobatic Team  (Read 4154 times)
Iceman2632
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« on: December 05, 2014, 05:10:45 AM »

I am in the planning stages of doing a kit if a Mig-19S that was a part of an unknown Russian Aerobatic Team. I am seeing different resources/opinions on the undersides. Some resources are appearing as silver, one source say it's a mixture of Humbrol 115 Russian Blue mixed with Humbrol 34 Flat White. That being said I'm guessing it's more like Duck Egg Blue undersides? Any help would be appreciated.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 06:22:05 AM »

Hi,
unfortunately I haven't photos. My guess is to exclude all colors, as duck egg green or light blue, that can make the plane scarcely visible when in flight, because it's the contrary of what an aerobatic team needs.
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Iceman2632
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2014, 05:43:28 AM »

This is the only color pics I can find. Scroll down to bottom and you'll see Mig-19

http://aerobaticteams.net/soviet-aerobatic-teams.html
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2014, 07:57:24 AM »

Hi,
the image gives really the idea of blue, but it is poor. I don't see metallic reflections. If it is blue, I suggest a saturate shade.
MiG-15s and 21 show metallic undersurfaces. The MiG-17 seem even black.
I think that it's better to ask on a Russian forum, if possible.
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Iceman2632
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 06:03:44 AM »

Yeah I agree. The more I think and look at the pics and reference pic from Wings Pallette site, I'm convinced it's blue grey undersides or more so Dark Ghost Grey at best.

Which Russian forum would you recommend?
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 05:14:44 PM »

Hi,
I suggest this one
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewforum_f_31.html
If you don't write Russian, it will be a bit difficult to post something, even if I think that someone could read English and answer all the same.
Again, my opinion is against blue-grey or dark grey for an aerobatic team, unless proven.
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Massimo
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Iceman2632
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 07:17:57 PM »

Thank you. I will try that link and give it a shot. I was able to translate the site from Russian to English. Let's see what happens.
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Troy Smith
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 06:58:16 AM »

I'd suggest same underside finish as the standard fighter, which was varnish with aluminium powder, not natural metal.

these are Mig -15's, but AFAIK the finish on the MiG-17 was the same



note different colour of airbrake, and the silver outline to the fuselage star.



Eduard do a Czech display team markings


the instructions show the undersides as aluminum
http://www.eduard.com/store/out/media/4441.pdf


HTH


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Iceman2632
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 12:50:41 AM »

No dice on translation further in site you provided.  Can do it on main page but not when registering. Oh well.
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 05:31:21 AM »

I never subscribed for this very same reason. Maybe you could try with the 'translate' command of the browser, if you have it.
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Troy Smith
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2014, 02:48:44 AM »

I rediscovered a post I made on Britmodeller

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234965175-hobby-boss-148-mig-17-fresco-c/#entry1709570

1956 Kubinka, http://elhangardetj.blogspot.it/2013/10/kubinka-1956.html





from - http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/colors/1945-1950-newtypes/1945-1950-newtypes.html
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The MiG-15 entered service with the Soviet Air Force in 1949.

The external surfaces, unprimed, were painted with a silver color named 170, that demonstrated scarcely durable and peeled off, besides it required hot drying and so was difficult to be repaired at unit level.

In 1951, they changed it with the trasparent varnish 9-32, that was more resistant and didn't require hot curing. This varnish could be completely trasparent or slightly yellowish.

If addictioned with 6% aluminium powder, they obtained the 9-32Al aluminium paint.

This product was operationally tested in late 1950 with satisfactory results, and was adopted during the following year. So, Soviet metallic planes as the MiG-15 and Il-28 could have been both natural metal (varnished) or painted silver.
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