Sovietwarplanes
September 21, 2019, 03:23:53 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: This forum replaces the old sovietwarplanes.com whose domain has expired in January 2017. It has been updated with the posts of the year 2016.
The new location of the site 'Sovietwarplanes pages' is at http://massimotessitori.altervista.org/sovietwarplanes/pages/
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
Author Topic: Any info on this aircraft?  (Read 5364 times)
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« on: January 01, 2015, 06:11:25 PM »



http://forum.warthunder.ru/index.php?/topic/74613-istoriia-nadpisei-i-risunkov-na-samoletakh-sssr/page-4
Logged
Massimo Tessitori
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5777


« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 08:18:38 PM »

Interesting!
I suppose that the plane was a La-5FN. If one can understand the number, it could be good for a profile.
The second digit is certainly a 5.  The first one... we can only say that it is not a 1 or 7, nor  3 or 4. Probably not a 5.  Remain 0, 2, 6,8,9.

Another interesting image of a yak-7 from the same page:


Regards
Massimo
Logged
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2015, 08:22:41 PM »

Per this link 34 IAP Defense of Moscow .

http://vk.com/wall-71044380?offset=340&z=photo-71044380_353038764%2Falbum-71044380_00%2Frev


http://vk.com/wall-71044380?offset=340
Logged
Massimo Tessitori
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5777


« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2015, 10:10:31 PM »

an automatic translation:
Quote
Captain Al's Soviet GN Urvachёv (left), 34 IAP defense of Moscow
in fighter La-5, near the art. 1945.
Logged
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2015, 03:12:37 AM »

Couple of differently painted aircraft.



This one #42 below came from this link. Claims it is from 10th GIAP Air Baltic Fleet.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.libma.ru%2Ftransport_i_aviacija%2Faviacija_i_vremja_2006_05%2Fp3.php&edit-text=







Logged
Massimo Tessitori
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5777


« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2015, 06:31:41 AM »

Hi,
very interesting, seems a white and red nose. Pity that the caption is useless and even wrong, says that the plane has a ASh-82 engine, but it is a La-5F with ASh-82F instead.
The second one is interesting for its non-standard numbers. The spinners look white, as the cowling rings. Is it possible that they are from the same unit?

Look at this. Isn't its light look unusual?


Regards
Massimo
Logged
learstang
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1763



WWW
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2015, 06:42:15 PM »

Could it be some type of winter camouflage?

Regards,

Jason
Logged

"I'll sleep when I'm dead."

- Warren William Zevon

http://www.learstang.com
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2015, 12:03:32 AM »

Is it a bubble top or a razor back I can't quite tell? I think the number is #91 not real sure on that either. If its a bubble top this would be the first photo of a Winter scheme I have ever seen.
Logged
learstang
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1763



WWW
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 04:12:38 AM »

It's a bubble-top; if nothing else, you can tell from the radio mast. It looks like it might even be an La-5FN (look at the top of the cowling).

Regards,

Jason
Logged

"I'll sleep when I'm dead."

- Warren William Zevon

http://www.learstang.com
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 04:56:36 AM »

It's a bubble-top; if nothing else, you can tell from the radio mast. It looks like it might even be an La-5FN (look at the top of the cowling).

Regards,

Jason

OK I am seeing it now. The rudder is clearly a solid white then everything up to the rear of the cockpit is camo that is roughly sprayed over white. A very clear line & then something else going on until you get to the engine cowls again. I initially did not get that excited on this photo when Massimo pointed it out I just thought it was a razor back.



Logged
learstang
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1763



WWW
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 05:16:36 AM »

Since the winter camouflage was still used for the winter of 1943/44, and the La-5FN went into service in 1943, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised to see an La-5FN in what appears to be winter camouflage; still, I believe it will be the first one that I've seen a photograph of. Right now I'm in the midst of writing a book on the Lavochkin fighters of the Second World War, so this is interesting and very topical stuff to me.

Regards,

Jason
Logged

"I'll sleep when I'm dead."

- Warren William Zevon

http://www.learstang.com
Massimo Tessitori
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 5777


« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2015, 04:00:38 PM »

Hi all,
I see some contrast, with the uppersurfaces slightly darker than the undersurfaces. Besides the dresses of the men suggest a mild season. I think that the plane is strongly faded, but I don't think that this means it has a white winter camouflage.
Regards
Massimo
Logged
Troy Smith
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 380


« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2015, 05:02:36 PM »

The uniforms look Naval uniforms, as seen on the Yak-7 photo with non standard colours from here http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/colors/1943-45-fighters/1943-45.html



Perhaps another Naval unit variation?

Given the small image size, it could just be very faded AMT-11/12,  there might be traces of the camo pattern on the wing.

And, there is precedent for an overall grey repaint on the famous war-weary Sharkmouth La-5. 
http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1209.0

Just some suggestions, no proof.




Logged
learstang
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1763



WWW
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2015, 05:38:44 PM »

Those are indeed Naval uniforms, and I had the same thought Troy; is it possible that this is some non-standard Naval camouflage?

Regards,

Jason
Logged

"I'll sleep when I'm dead."

- Warren William Zevon

http://www.learstang.com
barneybolac
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 320


« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2015, 08:40:23 PM »

In the link I posted earlier in the thread. On there is a few photos & they list them as 10th GIAP Air Baltic Fleet.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.11 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!