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Author Topic: "Ivan Kozhedub La-5 & La-7"  (Read 45627 times)
barneybolac
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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2015, 08:05:59 AM »

Hi Rodney,
thank you, there is a good photo file of both 12 and 14. The only profiles with photos on that page.
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Few other photos of the left side of these aircraft.





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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2015, 08:11:05 AM »

Very good, thank you.
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2015, 11:47:07 PM »

Found this text under the photo I posted before thought maybe of interest.

http://coollib.com/b/281469/read

"Major Ivan Kozhedub, in August 1944, ACS recently was awarded a second "Gold Star". In the background - a brand new La-7 on which Kozhedub flew to the front, in the 176th GIAP."

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« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2015, 07:04:22 AM »

Hi,
interesting. But the plane of the photo doesn't seem so new.
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« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2015, 09:13:36 AM »

Hi,
There are 3 vent openings close to the right side of the metal plate behind exhaust on the photo above.

La-7 from Monino - only 1 opening:


La-7 from Kbely:


Another La-7:




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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2015, 12:19:50 PM »

Hi Misos,
this is true. But the flap resembles that of a La-7. What is this plane, in your opinion?
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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2015, 09:28:23 PM »

Hi,
I've drawn a profile of n.92. The strangest characteristic is the presence of a landing light on the wing, that is absolutely non standard for Lavochkins.
Besides, the red paint of the nose is very worn and chipped. It could be that the spinner was red, but lost part of its paint.  I've no idea of the reason of such a bad adherence of the paint.
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« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2015, 01:58:31 PM »

Hi,
please note the scarcely visible discontinuity in color of the cowling- Probably the front of the ring was painted glossy red.
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« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2015, 05:44:05 PM »

Hi Massimo,
here is a better version of the photo above:

No repainting on the nose is visible.
Full slogan is: "Веселые ребята" "От джаз оркестра Л. Утесова", e.g. "Veselye rebjata" "Ot jazz-orchestra L. Utesova".
Leonid Utesov is standing on the wing with some officer.

Here are two profiles:
Black-green version:



Grey-grey version:


However, planes did not have white nose like on the second profile, slogan is not outlined etc.:


Note (3) victory stars behind the cockpit:


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« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2015, 09:21:49 PM »

Hi Misos,
thank you for the images and notes.
I agree, no repainting is visible here.
I can't distinguish the camouflage; anyway I think that it's grey-grey because the white outlines on the stars of Lavochkin were introduced somewhat after the new grey-grey camouflage. Besides, the pattern visible on theblack-green profiles has the pattern of grey-grey planes (but this is not a proof, if we can't see it on photos).
I wonder where the author of the grey-grey profile has found the white nose and the red part of the inscription. Available photos don't show such things.
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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2015, 05:26:27 PM »


Hi,
seems that this photo was taken when the plane was already operative by time. We see not only the victory stars, but repaintings with the camo arriving very down on the fuselage. It could have had other markings too.


This photo shows another officer and a glossy (or wet) finish, seems taken in another occasion and perhaps of another plane. Perhaps this orchestra donated planes other than n.12 and 14.

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« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2015, 05:41:00 PM »

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« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2015, 05:58:51 PM »

Hi Oleg,
beautiful image indeed.
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« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2015, 06:23:55 PM »

Beautiful indeed! When was that taken?

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« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2015, 08:49:01 AM »

Hi,
Nice picture. However, I wonder what time period should represent that aircraft - stars on the upper wings, yellow tips on propeller blades, three HSU stars (3rd one is from August '45), (green /yellow) leaves of different shape in different position, outlined victory starlets and no dark area under them Huh:

Almost like What-if camo. Or if gray is changed to green than it would look like standard after-the-war camo of late fourthies.
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