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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2016, 05:34:13 PM »

Hi,
this photo was posted today at VIF - spinner has color apparently different from the front fuselage:


Just for comparison - this is Fedorov's Cobra from the same unit - spinner and tail cap are red:




EDIT June 21st: Updated profile is in my Reply #65 bellow.

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« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2016, 09:24:52 PM »

Hi Misos,
this seems likely as glossy red.  Are the photos taken in different date?
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« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2016, 10:06:34 PM »

Hi Massimo,
Rechkalov was awarded 2nd HSU on July 1st, 1944.
Pokryshkin was awarded 3rd HSU on August 19th, 1944. Photographed in Rechkalov's Cobra in September 1944.
So it is quite probably that those photos are from the different photosessions/time.
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« Reply #63 on: June 21, 2016, 03:22:49 AM »

Hi Misos,

Awarded HSU gold star did not mean that a pilot physically received the medal on that day!

For example, Klubov was awarded HSU title on April 14, then 2-3 weeks later, in early May, he flew to division (or corpus, I can't remember) command to receive the medal - this is all described in Tabachenkov's book.  Pokrishkin flew all way to Moscow to receive his 3rd golden star medal, probably in September 1944.

On this series of photos, Rechkalov still has 1 golden star and Pokrishkin has 2 stars - everybody is cheering Pokrishkin for his 3rd HSU star, but he was still wearing only 2 stars.  The photo session was probably made sometime between August 19 when Pokrishkin was awarded 3rd golden star and September when he returned from Moscow with the medal.

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« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2016, 04:10:49 AM »

Hi Misos,

Movie with D. Glinka might have been filmed before August 1943, before quick recognition markings have been ordered?

This series of photos was taken in January 1944, some of these Airacobras are probably from Glinka's 100 giap









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« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2016, 08:24:52 PM »

Hi KL,
thanks for nice photos.
Here is updated profile - some minor corrections:



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« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2016, 02:01:08 AM »


this photo was posted today at VIF - spinner has color apparently different from the front fuselage:



Rechkalov with 2 golden stars above and with one star below:



on both photos spinner is different colour...  Rechkalov's Airacobra spinner has been red from August 1943, like spinners of all other 16 giap Airacobras...

It's the nature of b/w photo material:  
-  if photo shows different shades of gray, this could be the proof that there are 2 different colours
-  If photo doesn't show different shades of gray, this is not a proof that there is only one colour, because there is always the option that the film wasn't sensitive enough to record the difference between the 2 colours.

Regards,
KL

P.S. New profile is excellent, again the best existing!  Bravo Misos!!!  Smiley  Smiley  Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2016, 02:44:45 AM »

Hi Misos,

it looks that the photo session (celebration of Pokrishkin's 3rd gold star) has been organized shortly after August 19. Pokrishkin left front in late August, together with Rechkalov and Trud.  All three, received their gold stars on September 9, in Moscov Kremlin.  Pokrishkin receved his 3rd star, Rechkalov 2nd and Trud 1st.  This (and much more at http://www.portal-slovo.ru/history/35406.php?ELEMENT_ID=35406&PAGEN_1=3


Pokrishkin receives medal from Shvernik...


Rechkalov attaches medal...


Pokrishkin, Rechkalov, Gulaev and Trud, Kremlin in background...

So, your profile should be dated August 1944.

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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2016, 05:57:43 PM »

Hi KL,
Thanks a lot for appretiation Grin and additional info.
Between August 19th and September 9th there is 11 days in August and 9 days in September, e.g. it is almost 1:1 for Aug or Sep. Therefore unles there is not known exact date of that photosession, IMHO my description "August/September 1944" is not incorrect.
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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2016, 01:37:04 AM »

Hi Misos,
it looks that August/September is actually OK date for that particular appearence of Rechkalov's Airacobra (55 victory stars)...  

Check Rechkalov's victories at http://airaces.narod.ru/all1/rechkal.htm

Since first 3 victories scored in 1941 were never officially recognized, the 55th officially recognized victory was scored on August 2nd.  Rechkalov didn't score any victories by August 19th so on photos which were taken during the session his Airacobra had 55 victories and that is what your profile shows.  56th victory was scored on August 31st, just before Rechkalov left combat and flew to Moscow - so Rechkalov's Airacobra should have had 56 victory stars during his leave in September 1944...

To make this clear:  Photo with 1 HSU gold star medal was taken in August 1944, before the trip in Moscow and Airacobra has 55 victory stars painted



Rechkalov's photo with 2 golden star medals was taken after the Moscow trip, probably in October 1944.  Airacobra should have had 56 victory stars painted...



Following 2 photos are problematic; it's not clear one or two golden star medals





Two photos above clearly show 55 victory stars!!! If taken after the Moscow trip, even October 1944 would be possible dating for your profile...

HTH,
KL
 
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« Reply #70 on: February 06, 2019, 06:36:15 PM »

Hi all,

a further nice shot and never seen before of Rechkalov's P-39 from Mansur Mustafin website on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/1138695823/posts/10213178044702564/

Flavio
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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2019, 09:32:55 PM »

for ease of reference, might be worth saving as Facebook is not the best platform


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« Reply #72 on: February 11, 2019, 05:12:01 PM »

Hi,
very nice photo.
Here I made an enlarged detail from it and applied some corrections:



- tail has a darker shade of the OD than the fuselage,
- side of the fuselage between the cockpit and the star is repainted by a darker color than the weathered/bleached old OD on the surrounding fuselage,
- there is darker area under the red star, seems circular at least at is left upper part - either original blue disc or repainted by green darker than weathered/bleached old OD,
- unfortunately not clearly visible, wheter there was a field reinforcement of the rear fuselage (under the letters PGA) or not.
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« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2019, 09:32:19 PM »

Hi Misos,
 could it be that the dark repainting is indicative of a reinforcement on the fuselage? I think to see a rectangular repainting between the star and the letters.
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