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« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2015, 11:12:50 AM »

Hi,
...As soon as disruptive camouflage disappeared from VVS planes, stars reappeared on wing tops...  IMHO, all postwar VVS planes had stars on upper wing surfaces...

I do not think so. Here are some examples of the after-war VVS planes in the single color paint scheme without red stars on the upper wings:
I-250, October 1945:



Tu-8, late fourties:


Yak-15, 1947



MiG-9, 1947:


Yak-200, 1952-3 (light blue-grey A-36g?):


Il-28, in overall silver painting, the red stars are already on the upper wing:


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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2015, 12:47:10 PM »

Hi,
here are another photos from 1 gmtap:






So here I made a sister to "red 4" according to the photo above:


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« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2015, 01:23:24 PM »

Hi Misos,
interesting images. I see some red trims on horizontal surfaces too.
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« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2015, 06:14:26 PM »

Hi Massimo,
yes, I think so - one on the right wing and two on the both horizontal stabilizers.

Here is another top view:


It should be this plane:



The upper surface painting looks like modification of this scheme:

Dark grey and green areas on the wings are repainted with the fresh light brown - a bit darker than weathered original light brown.
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« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2015, 07:05:33 PM »

Hi Misos, yes, it seems so... but I wonder why they should put all that brown on the wings.
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« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2015, 10:57:56 PM »

Hi Massimo,
I also do not understand it. That time, during VVS aerial superiority, fighters abandoned masking against ground (black-green) but were masked against far horisont, e.g. grey-bluegrey colors.
Applying so big areas of the light brown, it looks like flying low above desert or dry grassland. And similar repainting with some light color was done also on some Pe-2. Huh
I would prefer light bluegrey AMT-11 or its oil equivalent, but this color does not look usually co bright on the photos.
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« Reply #81 on: November 04, 2015, 11:28:28 AM »

Hi,
so here it is for comparison - the same "white 6", but repainted with blue-grey AMT-11, not with light brown:
EDIT: Deleted as apparently incorrect, see color photo in the post bellow.
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« Reply #82 on: November 04, 2015, 01:51:53 PM »

Hi Misos,
Looks too strange.
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« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2015, 03:34:45 AM »

Question from scalemodels.ru:

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From 1955 - Massimo was right  Lips Sealed

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« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2015, 06:55:48 PM »

Hi,
we had here after-war "Moskva 32":


and here is war-time "Moskva 32":


Profile is based mainly on this photo:

What is not visible on this photo I estimated according to the photos of the similarly camouflaged planes.

IMHO this photo show light brown areas on the upperwing, not bluegrey:

so idea of AMT-11 could be abandoned.
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« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2015, 06:14:33 AM »

Hi Misos,
looks a good reconstruction of this plane.
Are there other drawings in sight?
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« Reply #86 on: November 07, 2015, 09:28:02 PM »

Hi Massimo,
thanks for kind comment. Smiley
Here is "Moskva 32" from the top:

I also slightly reworked side view (post above) to better match photo and this top view.

Yes, there are still additional Tu-2 planes in the queue to show variability in camouflage schemes.
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« Reply #87 on: December 28, 2015, 09:56:48 PM »

Hi,
here is another profile - Tu-2S "Blue 20" in front of the Factory 23 building, October 1944. The light brown painting over the wings looks the same, or at least very similar to the Tu-2S "Moskva 32". I not sure if tail upper surfaces are also painted light brown or it is only the light reflection.





EDIT Dec 29 - upper surfaces of the horizontal stabilizers partially painted light brown:


Here is the enlarged lightened photo showing the right tail:


Do you know anybody, please, board number of this Tu-2?

That diagonal light stripe on the tail is interesting. On the Russian pages I saw old profile of the Tu-2 with yellow, white outlined diagonal stripe on the tail and with board number "White 84" on the fuselage.
Thank you in advance.
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« Reply #88 on: December 29, 2015, 09:42:09 AM »

Hi Misos,
the extension of those light parts is a mystery. On the tail of n.20 it doesn't even seem a reflection, because it would be obscured by the reflection of the fin.  I think you should paint the stabilizers on the assumption that the light part is brown.
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« Reply #89 on: December 29, 2015, 03:33:13 PM »

Hi Massimo,
thank you for your comment. I updated the picture in my post above.
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