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Author Topic: Pink I-16?  (Read 1698 times)
barneybolac
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« on: April 30, 2017, 03:51:43 AM »

Any basis of fact for this profile?
Seems very unlikely.



https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsdxr1805.livejournal.com%2F115174.html&edit-text=
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 09:37:21 AM »

Hi,
strange a lot.
I suppose that it could be based on some recalls of veterans, but why? Perhaps for some training unit, far from the frontline?
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Massimo
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barneybolac
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2017, 11:10:15 AM »

Google translation of text.

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warhawk
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2017, 04:01:04 PM »

The top of picture shows that this scheme is personally signed and confirmed by I. A. Nikolayenko.
While I do not know who this pilot is, the "salmon-ish" shade of the color in the profile leads my eye towards a faded red (with a brand new, un-faded spinner) maybe?
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barneybolac
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2017, 09:55:50 PM »

Translated a couple of links that has some information about the squadron. Looks like this was a front line group not a training squadron.


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsch-48.ru%2Findex.php%2Fexploratory&edit-text=

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fallaces.ru%2Fsssr%2Fstruct%2Fp%2Fiap591.php&edit-text=
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Massimo Tessitori
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2017, 10:36:52 PM »

Perhaps it was painted pink in the training stage, then changed when arrived into the operative unit. But why to move an obsolete plane from a training unit to a frontline squadron in mid 1942, when the unit had more modern planes? Perhaps this was his plane while training only?
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KL
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2017, 08:08:58 PM »

This profile and everything around it was created by A.V. Stankov in 2005. Regardless of the huge amount of information and material he collected from the veterans, Stankov is known as extremely unreliable source, kind of Russian Pilawskii.
Until we see what and where A.I. Nikolaenko said about the "pink I-16" i would not consider this profile as something based on reality.

Aerobatic I-16 which ended in a combat unit in 1942 was mentioned in A.R. Popov memoirs "V nebe Stalingrada" ("in Stalingrad Sky") published in 1985. This veteran says that his plane was originaly red, flown by famous Anatoliy Serov, but it was overpainted in standard "Protective colour" (meaning military green). This sounds more realistic...

This is how Maslov describes Popov's recollections:

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в конце 1941 года для обороны города Сталинграда с воздуха из личного состава Сталинградской и Борисоглебской летных школ была образована 102-я авиадивизия ПВО. Самолеты для двух полков дивизии 628 и 629-го собирали, что называется, с бору по сосенке в основном это были И-16 и И-153. По воспоминаниям бывшего пилота 629-го ИАП Александра Попова, ему достался ишачок 10-го типа с цифрой 9 на руле поворота. Каково же было удивление сержанта Попова, когда под ободранной защитной окраской он обнаружил, что самолет ранее был окрашен в красный цвет. Заглянув в формуляр самолета, молодой летчик обнаружил, что ему досталась машина, принадлежавшая ранее Анатолию Серову. На этом И-16, который до войны Серов водил над Красной площадью, летчик Попов 23 июля 1941 года на подступах к Сталинграду таранил немецкий бомбардировщик До-215.

HTH,
KL
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