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« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2021, 01:59:16 PM » |
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Hi Massimo,
thank you for posting. Adding "(related to Pokrovskij)" was a good idea. We will see if any new info arise. As one said - the truth is out there.
Regards, 66misos
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« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2021, 03:03:37 PM » |
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Hi, I have started work on another Yak-1b. Now it is plane from the 1st Fighting Regiment "City of Warshaw" (1 PLM "Warszawa") from autumn 1943. This plane already wore standard grey-grey camouflage with the combination of the old and new red stars. - July 3, 1943 - directive no.2389/0133 - the upper and side surfaces of all fighter aircraft have to be painted in greyish blue and dark grey colors. - September 3, 1943 - No.267 issued - red stars have to have outline with white line 5cm wide edged with red line 1cm wide. Here is my work in progress: Regards, 66misos
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« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2021, 05:01:57 PM » |
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Hi Misos, this will be welcome. I wait to see its evolution up to the definitive version. Regards Massimo
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« Reply #79 on: September 05, 2021, 07:13:23 AM » |
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Hi Misos, a thing that this photo of Yak, and some other ones, seem to show is that the lower part of the rear of the fuselage seems painted with AMT-11, while the wings and metallic parts seem painted in light blue. I wonder if it was a matter of availabilty of paints. Regards Massimo
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« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2021, 10:50:03 AM » |
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Hi Massimo, exactly, the lower part of the rear fuselage confuses me, it is quite dark, almost zero contrast against AMT-11. At britmodeller forum is an article Yakovlev Yak-1b 1st Fighter Regiment "City of Warsaw" with several photos, here showing Yak-1b from 1945: Repainting with paints of the color not exactly matching original camouflage was not unusual. Photo of White II from Arma Hobby blog in a bit better photo: And the photo of the same plane from Як-1 с двигателем М-105ПФSo if original camouflage of White II looked similar to White 12 (light blue AMt-7 going high at the rear fuselage), then it could be overpainted with some darker "local mixture", may be mix of light blue and black or AMT-11 of the different shade, to make sides of the fuselage darker. Regards, 66misos
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« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2021, 12:48:23 PM » |
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Hi, so far basic camouflage and some smoke stains. Regards, 66misos
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« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2021, 02:04:44 PM » |
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The carburetor air intake in the wing root appears much larger than on standard Yak-1Bs. The photo of "White 12" (shown Photoshopped into "White 13" in the Britmodeller thread) shows this; there's another photo of this aircraft published on the back cover of Skrzydla w Miniaturze 2/91 showing the intake from the front quarter which confirms the larger size. Was this a common modification on Polish Yaks? Was it just one aircraft?
John
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« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2021, 04:54:56 PM » |
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Hi Misos, from the photo, I see that the AMT-11 (or what is) look extended to the lower part of the rear fuselage, including the tail wheel doors and the cooling fairing. I remember a similar photo that I wasn't able to find in my hard disk with the rear surfaces dark and light blue under the wing and nose. I suppose that it was a matter of stocks of paint, that is that the factory was short of AMT-7 and used the closest shades available. Best regards Massimo
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« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2021, 07:12:54 PM » |
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Hi Massimo, you are right. I made some corrections, plus I added "weathering" and "dirting", so here is the final result: EDIT Septt 11, 2021 - old picture replaced by this corrected one: Regards, 66misos
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« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2021, 08:12:26 PM » |
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Hi Misos, the conformation of the exhaust stacks should be different, they have plates up and down. I would make the mast a bit bended forward. Regards Massimo
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« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2021, 10:54:41 PM » |
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Darker paint or just stains from the airflow out of the radiator?
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« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2021, 06:49:45 AM » |
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I don't think, it shouldn't have been so uniform on the sides.
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« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2021, 10:27:18 AM » |
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Hi, I replaced original picture with corrected one: - antenna mast in vertical position, - added plates above and below exhaust stacks, - hole at the front fuselage deleted.
Regards, 66misos
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